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deemus

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If a bill of sale is a problem or, as someone suggested, they demand to see my bill of sale, then there is always a legal transfer via a 4473 through a dealer. That way, both parties are covered.

What I do not understand is why people attack or denigrate those who do want a bill of sale or a transfer. We, as firearm owners, are already under attack and I wonder why we are not able to respect each other over this.

There are actual court cases where a person executed a bill of sale. Buyer used the gun in a crime. Bill of sale came into play that proved sale of the gun to a felon. Which turned the seller into a felon since he sold the gun to a felon.
 
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rmantoo

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There are actual court cases where a person executed a bill of sale. Buyer used the gun in a crime. Bill of sale came into play that proved sale of the gun to a felon. Which turned the seller into a felon since he sold the gun to a felon.
I've googled and googled - spent about 20 minutes googling- and cannot find anything more than "free bill of sale for the state of X"

Can you point me in the direction to find that?
thanks
Robert
 

rotor

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I've googled and googled - spent about 20 minutes googling- and cannot find anything more than "free bill of sale for the state of X"

Can you point me in the direction to find that?
thanks
Robert
There will I guess be a lot more posts. How would a BOS prove a gun was sold to a felon? Are you a felon, the yes box is checked?
 

Charlie

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I'll chime in with my own thoughts on a bill of sale.

A BOS is meaning less unless one has a Notary witness the signatures as being the people signing the BOS.
A BOS provides no proof the item (gun) is stolen or if either party knows it's stolen.
A BOS provides no implied warranty, etc.
A BOS provides no information that indicates the seller is the owner of the firearm.
A BOS does not prove the person selling or buying is a citizen of the state.
Etc., Etc.
 

ZX9RCAM

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There will I guess be a lot more posts. How would a BOS prove a gun was sold to a felon? Are you a felon, the yes box is checked?
I'm confused.
If you sold a gun to an individual who is a felon, and you didn't know it.
You both exchanged your BOS, and there you go.
Later, he is arrested with the gun, and BOS proving that you sold it to him.
Wouldn't that be how?
 

Charlie

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The BOS only indicates the gun was sold. It does not prove that the seller knew or didn't know he was selling it to a felon. A seller could have stolen the gun and put all kinds of BS on the BOS!
 

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