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Excuse Me While I Get My Gun

Discussion in 'Gun Legislation' started by slim jim, Aug 17, 2008.

  1. slim jim

    slim jim Official News Guy

    Mar 18, 2008
    The U.S. Supreme Court ruled that the District of Columbia had violated the Second Amendment by making armed self-defense in the home impractical and banning the most popular weapons used for that purpose. Last week the D.C. Council responded by unanimously approving a law that makes armed self-defense in the home impractical and bans the most popular weapons used for that purpose.
    D.C.'s political leaders know they are inviting another Second Amendment lawsuit, but they are determined to defy the Supreme Court and the Constitution for as long as possible.
    The new law "clarifies that no carry license is required inside the home" to move a gun from one room to another. It also "clarifies" the District's firearm storage requirements, saying a gun may be unlocked and loaded "while it is being used to protect against a reasonably perceived threat of immediate harm to a person" in the home.
    Much hinges on what counts as a "reasonably perceived threat." If you're awakened in the middle of the night by a crash, may you carry a loaded gun with you as you investigate? Evidently not. The Washington Post reports that D.C.'s acting attorney general, Peter Nickles, "said residents could neither keep their guns loaded in anticipation of a problem nor search for an intruder on their property." According to Nickles, if you see an armed criminal charging your home, or in the event of "an actual threat by somebody you believe is out to hurt you," you're allowed to get your gun, unlock it, and load it.
    How long will that take? The new law lets people use a gun safe instead of a trigger lock, which, depending on the type of safe, could allow faster retrieval. But even a gun in a safe has to be kept unloaded, which will tend to slow down the owner's response to a "reasonably perceived threat," assuming he can figure out what that means.
    The delay will be even longer because of the District's ridiculously broad ban on "machine guns." The Metropolitan Police Department says the ban covers all handguns except revolvers, which are more cumbersome to load than semiautomatics with detachable magazines.
    Under D.C. law, "machine guns" include not only guns that fire continuously but also guns that fire once per trigger pull if they can fire more than 12 rounds without reloading or "can be readily converted" to do so. According to the District's interpretation, even a pistol that fires 12 or fewer rounds counts as a "machine gun" if it could accept a bigger magazine.
    That's why Dick Heller, the man who successfully challenged D.C.'s handgun ban, was not allowed to register his seven-shot .45-caliber pistol, which in the District's view might as well be an Uzi. Instead he applied to register a .22-caliber revolver.
    Speaking of registration, the District has established a burdensome 12-step process that involves multiple trips to gun dealers and government offices, fingerprinting, a written exam, and ballistic testing. How long does all this take? "Up to 14 days," according to one police department publication. "Approximately eight weeks," according to another. "There are circumstances where it could take months," says Police Chief Cathy Lanier.
    Registration easily could turn out to be so onerous or capricious that it effectively denies D.C. residents the right to keep and bear arms. The District's revised firearm storage requirements are even more clearly unconstitutional, since they unreasonably interfere with the very function, self-defense in the home, that the Supreme Court said is protected by the Second Amendment. Likewise the arbitrary ban on semiautomatic handguns, the most commonly used self-defense weapons.
    "I am pretty confident that the people of the District of Columbia want me to err in the direction of trying to restrict guns," D.C. Mayor Adrian Fenty told Washington Post columnist Marc Fisher. How about erring, just this once, in the direction of respecting civil liberties?

    Excuse Me While I Get My Gun: Washington, D.C., defies the Supreme Court's Second Amendment ruling. - Reason Magazine

  2. Mark F

    Mark F Member

    Aug 21, 2008

    Yes... It's no secret that the D.C. Council is a bunch of self-serving IDIOTS. Adrian Fenty has absolutely NO idea what the "people" want, and I can assure you he doesn't care either.
  3. bikerbill

    bikerbill Active Member

    Apr 1, 2008
    Lago Vista
    I guess I'm confused ... obviously the folks who run WDC are idiots ... but if you lived there, would you unload and lock up your gun? I sure wouldn't ... until they have cameras in everybody's house, they have no idea in what condition your gun is kept ... I'd get a small safe, just in case, and tell the cops I heard something, got the gun and loaded it ... there are laws and there are laws ... big difference between getting you speeding on radar and thinking you were going too fast ...
  4. jack010203

    jack010203 New Member

    Sep 21, 2008
    how do these ppl keep getting elected, weather you are for or aganist gun rights there blatint disreguard for the constution is reason enough to vote them out. They must have an awsome PR guy or there are quite a few uninformed idiots there. Ill guess the latter
  5. Tracer_Bullet

    Tracer_Bullet New Member

    Oct 5, 2008
    Not in Texas...

    It's the conspiracy, Man!!!

    Little by little the constant washing of the river flattens all the rocks.

    Only the liberal river seems to keep overflowing its banks.

    Just let 'em try it in TX.

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