Factoring Criteria for Firearms with Attached “Stabilizing Braces”

[popper]

Rules about braces and even SBR are stupid rules. Period! Listened to the news last nite, guy says it is terrible that they are killing our 1 yr old kids with high powered RIFLES. Yea, right. IDIOTS OPEN THEIR MOUTHS. Original law was written due to sawed off shotguns that were CONCEALABLE. Semi auto pistols (normal carry stuff) has as much firepower now as an SBR so why the rule? IMHO due to better accuracy at distance to defend against FEDERAL POLICE.

 

[ZX9RCAM]

Rules about braces and even SBR are stupid rules. Period! Listened to the news last nite, guy says it is terrible that they are killing our 1 yr old kids with high powered RIFLES. Yea, right. IDIOTS OPEN THEIR MOUTHS. Original law was written due to sawed off shotguns that were CONCEALABLE. Semi auto pistols (normal carry stuff) has as much firepower now as an SBR so why the rule? IMHO due to better accuracy at distance to defend against FEDERAL POLICE.

Normal carry pistols don't have the same firepower as an AR pistol in 5.56, or am I wrong?

 

[gll]

Normal carry pistols don't have the same firepower as an AR pistol in 5.56, or am I wrong?

I don't think you are wrong, though it could be argued that PCC AR pistols don't have more firepower than normal carry pistols but,

AR pistols in 5.56 do have less, certainly not more, firepower than AR rifles in 5.56, so the SBR rules are still stupid...

Any relative concealability comparison of AR pistols to rifles is still stupid, when you consider that an AR rifle can be broken down into concealable/packable parts and then quickly reassembled.

Of course, you know all this, and I am just singing to the choir... off-key...

 

[wbblazer90]

Only 100k responses of the millions out there? We need to pick up the pace

 

[Renegade]

Looks like Mitch got a backbone and just told ATF to pound sand.

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[popper]

Even an AR10 (308W) with carbine stock and any length barrel can be a handfull.

 

[oldag]

43k posted, 108k received.

 

[Rhino]

Hey all, just a reminder that there are two days left to submit a comment. If you haven't yet, and you've got a little free time today - go get it entered!

 

[oldag]

Hey all, just a reminder that there are two days left to submit a comment. If you haven't yet, and you've got a little free time today - go get it entered!

And also email Cruz and Cornyn.

 

[Bozz10mm]

I have submitted 6 comments over the past couple of months. Since the proposed rules will not come to a vote in Congress, Cruz and Cornyn can't do much other than write a letter to the ATF.

 

[Tactical Panda]

I forget, was it stated when the proposed rule was supposed to take effect?

 

[toddnjoyce]

I forget, was it stated when the proposed rule was supposed to take effect?

After the comment period the agency drafts the final rule. Can be days, weeks, months, years, or never. Once the final rule is published in the federal register, it’s generally 30 days until effective.

 

[rpwilson]

Since when does the ATF get to make laws? I thought the constitution gave that power to Congress...

 

[Rhino]

Since when does the ATF get to make laws? I thought the constitution gave that power to Congress...

That's true for a BUNCH of Federal agencies. That ship sailed more than a century ago.

 

[Tactical Panda]

After the comment period the agency drafts the final rule. Can be days, weeks, months, years, or never. Once the final rule is published in the federal register, it’s generally 30 days until effective.

Ok, cool. Well, not cool, but, you know. I was afraid it was already final.

 

[rpwilson]

That's true for a BUNCH of Federal agencies. That ship sailed more than a century ago.

Leftist/socialist politicians seem to use the Constitution as toilet paper as well

 

[Rhino]

There’s this other old document that begins: “When in the course of human events…”

 

[Bozz10mm]

Since when does the ATF get to make laws? I thought the constitution gave that power to Congress...

That is one of the points I made in some of my comments.

 

[rpwilson]

That is one of the points I made in some of my comments.

I have made the same point in mine, along with the fact this unfairly attacks owners of firearms that have previously been deemed legal by the ATF, either forcing them to pay a tax and register, remove the accessory and make the firearm less useful, or forfeit the firearm.

On a side note, the ATF is an infringement on everyone's right to bear arms

 

[oldag]

I have submitted 6 comments over the past couple of months. Since the proposed rules will not come to a vote in Congress, Cruz and Cornyn can't do much other than write a letter to the ATF.

Of course, but that pressure cannot hurt and might help.