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  • TheMailMan

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    The voting age should be tied to the age to buy a firearm.

    Every regulation that requires something to buy a firearm should also apply to voting.

    Show a positive ID, background check, waiting periods, age limits...the whole works, instead of a 4473 a short 25 question worksheet covering Civics, Government, current events, and the Constitution.
     

    rotor

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    The voting age should be tied to the age to buy a firearm.

    Every regulation that requires something to buy a firearm should also apply to voting.

    Show a positive ID, background check, waiting periods, age limits...the whole works, instead of a 4473 a short 25 question worksheet covering Civics, Government, current events, and the Constitution.
    That would really be gun control. 90% of people would fail the test.
     

    bbbass

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    Classic close the gate behind me strategy... I like it!

    I reserve the right to tell all those young whippersnafflers to "get off my lawn"!!!


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    DougC

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    For those who want to geek out (aka the legalese) what this all means Tom Grieve Channel provides a clear concise explanation from a lawyer :facepalm: :laughing: :roflfunny: No, he does a good job and worthwhile to follow. He frequently appears on the USCCA channel. I am sure the feds will appeal and appeal and appeal. But it's going to be hard to argue that the government can take away constitutional right from adults.

     

    DougC

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    Bearing Arms blog and several other 2A advocate social media posts say that 18-20 year olds can now buy a handgun.

    In fact, not only did U.S. District Judge Robert E. Payne grant class action status to the lawsuit brought by Virginia resident John Corey Fraser, he issued a nationwide injunction against enforcing the federal prohibition on handgun sales for adults younger than 21… though he did throw DOJ a bone by staying the injunction in order to give the government time to appeal.
     

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    From the Truth about Guns blog

    In a case filed in the Northern District of West Virginia, a federal judge has applied the rights-respecting standards of the Supreme Court’s NYSRPA v Bruen decision when considering a challenge to the federal law that prohibits the legal sale of a pistol to adults under 21 year old, rejecting arguments by the law’s defenders that those people can still buy a gun privately or get one from an older family member.

    By granting summary judgment in the case, U.S. District Chief Judge Thomas S. Kleeh, a Trump appointee, prohibited the federal government from enforcing the prohibition on sales to 18 to 20-year-olds and his ruling is based on Bruen.

    He enjoined the defendants—in this case the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, ATF Director Steven Dettelbach and Attorney General Merrick Garland from enforcing the provisions “against Plaintiffs and otherwise-qualified 18-to-20-year-olds.”

    The federal government could — and probably will — choose to appeal the ruling and ask for an order staying the decision while the case is argued further.
     

    etmo

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    The federal government could — and probably will — choose to appeal the ruling and ask for an order staying the decision while the case is argued further.

    That's fine, they have a near-zero chance of winning the appeal

    All these pathetic cases and their appeals accomplish is to direct taxpayer dollars to train pro-2A lawyers and fund pro-2A organizations.
     
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