First post - here to try to sell FILs ammo

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  • silver_2000

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    I've posted a new threads w the guns and the ammo.

    I'm really impressed with the input and feedback from the members , wish I had come here years ago... I'd be done selling and could actually shoot some...

    Thanks to all

    And keep the feedback coming
     

    PinnedandRecessed

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    they were somewhat easier to sell - an IT customer of mine bought about 1/3 of them - there are still about 8 left I think including a M1 Garand
    So there's guns or no?

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    silver_2000

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    You should do some research on people that have been convicted of federal felonies for operating as an unlicensed FFL .

    What got them convicted were in a whole bunch of cases a bill of sale.
    Thanks for the heads up
    Im selling a personal collection for my MIL. Ive had attorneys for the NRA review the transport and sale of these items.

    Also there has been ZERO buying only selling. And FIL spent likely 5x on the collection compared to what we are selling for.

    From ATF
    "May a person who is relocating out-of-state move firearms with other household goods?
    Yes. A person who lawfully possesses a firearm may transport or ship the firearm interstate when changing their state of residence. If using a moving company, you must notify the mover that firearms are being transported."

    "To whom may an unlicensed person transfer firearms under the GCA?
    A person may transfer a firearm to an unlicensed resident of their state, provided the transferor does not know or have reasonable cause to believe the transferee is prohibited from receiving or possessing firearms under federal law. There may be state laws that regulate intrastate firearm transactions. A person considering transferring a firearm should contact their State Attorney General’s Office to inquire about the laws and possible state or local restrictions."

    "What recordkeeping procedures should be followed when two unlicensed individuals want to engage in a firearms transaction?
    When a transaction takes place between unlicensed persons who reside in the same state, the Gun Control Act (GCA) does not require any record keeping. An unlicensed person may sell a firearm to another unlicensed person in their state of residence and, similarly, an unlicensed person may buy a firearm from another unlicensed person who resides in the same state. It is not necessary under federal law for a federal firearms licensee (FFL) to assist in the sale or transfer when the buyer and seller are “same–state” residents."

    "As a general rule, you will need a license if you repetitively buy and sell firearms with the principal motive of making a profit. In contrast,
    if you only make occasional sales of firearms from your personal collection, you do not need to be licensed. "


    "Courts have identified several factors relevant to determining on which side of that line your activities may fall, including: whether
    you represent yourself as a dealer in firearms; whether you are repetitively buying and selling firearms; the circumstances under
    which you are selling firearms; and whether you are looking to make a profit. Note that while quantity and frequency of sales are relevant
    indicators, courts have upheld convictions for dealing without a license when as few as two firearms were sold, or when only one or
    two transactions took place, when other factors were also present. "

    "What does it mean to be “engaged in the business of dealing in firearms”?
    Under federal law, a person engaged in the business of dealing in firearms is a person who “devotes time, attention and labor to dealing in firearms as a regular course of trade or business with the principal objective of livelihood and profit through the
    repetitive purchase and resale of firearms.”
    Under federal law, conducting business “with the principal objective of livelihood and profit” means that “the intent underlying the sale or disposition of firearms is predominantly one of obtaining livelihood and pecuniary gain, as opposed to other intents, such as improving or liquidating a personal firearms collection.” Consistent with this approach, federal law explicitly exempts persons “who make
    occasional sales, exchanges, or purchases of firearms for the enhancement of a personal collection or for a hobby, or who sells all or part of his personal collection of firearms.”
     

    silver_2000

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    Here is the reason for the bill of sale - I hope it doesnt prevent a sale but if it does Ill keep trying

    "Keeping a Record of the Sale
    Though Texas law does not require you to keep formal paperwork documenting the change in ownership, we highly recommend that you do. Should the firearm be used in illegal activity, this bill of sale can help to prove that you are no longer the owner of the gun."
     

    Hoji

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    Here is the reason for the bill of sale - I hope it doesnt prevent a sale but if it does Ill keep trying

    "Keeping a Record of the Sale
    Though Texas law does not require you to keep formal paperwork documenting the change in ownership, we highly recommend that you do. Should the firearm be used in illegal activity, this bill of sale can help to prove that you are no longer the owner of the gun."
    It also “proves” you have sold firearms without a license.

    In your case, lots of firearms.

    If you don’t think they won’t go after a quick “win” with making you spend $100,000+ hiring an attorney then offer you a plea to something less just to say they prosecuted and got a conviction for an unlicensed gun dealer, then you have not been paying attention.

    There are FFLs on this site that will back up what I am saying.
    @TexasRedneck @Renegade. @V-Tach care to chime in?
     
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