Florida Man (here we go...)

Sublime

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Shootee was 28 yo at the time and shooter was 48 yo. Neither were “frail” men.
Shooter must have lived a hard life then because he looks older. Many who get upset about folks parking in the handicap spot are handicapped. Dunno if this guy was but with a 20yr age difference and the pusher being bigger than the pushee, their was an obvious disparity of force.

All these things will be brought up in trial by the defense attorney.

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Sam7sf

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None handicapped who use handicapped spaces really are a special kind of loser. Not justifying any of this. Just saying...
 
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ZX9RCAM

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Well that is your opinion but let's go with that. A verbal confrontation does not warrant an assault and definitely not from someone not initially involved in the confrontation. Do you disagree with that?

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I don't disagree at all.

Do you disagree that he initiated the conflict?
 

Sublime

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I don't disagree at all.

Do you disagree that he initiated the conflict?
Well first you used "confrontation" and now you use "conflict" They are not the same by definition. Yes, I disagree. The shooter "initiated" a contact with the person in the car that was illegally parked in a handicapped space. Now maybe he should not do that if he wasn't ready for the consequences (though it appears he was) but he most definitely did not initiate a contact with the guy coming out of the store that pushed him down on the concrete. IF the guy would have continued the assault (and that is what it was) and maybe stomped his head to unconsciousness or he hit his head on the concrete and died, we'd all be saying - "Gee he should have drawn his gun if he had it on him."

Too many times here on TGT I see people analyzing a situation that involves force or deadly force as if it is cut and dry. A happened so B should naturally happen. It doesn't work like that in the real world. He was charged and we'll see what happens. My opinion is that he should not be convicted.
 

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Well first you used "confrontation" and now you use "conflict" They are not the same by definition. Yes, I disagree. The shooter "initiated" a contact with the person in the car that was illegally parked in a handicapped space. Now maybe he should not do that if he wasn't ready for the consequences (though it appears he was) but he most definitely did not initiate a contact with the guy coming out of the store that pushed him down on the concrete. IF the guy would have continued the assault (and that is what it was) and maybe stomped his head to unconsciousness or he hit his head on the concrete and died, we'd all be saying - "Gee he should have drawn his gun if he had it on him."

Too many times here on TGT I see people analyzing a situation that involves force or deadly force as if it is cut and dry. A happened so B should naturally happen. It doesn't work like that in the real world. He was charged and we'll see what happens. My opinion is that he should not be convicted.
Do you think pushing someone to the ground is unlawful deadly force?
 
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