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  • Acetone

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    Are there state laws regarding a private FTF sale of a handgun to an out of state resident? As far as I am aware, Federal Law only regulates licensees (FFL) and therefore private sales would only be subject to state law.

    Scenario:
    Buddy comes down from the North and I want to sell him a handgun, legal?
    Texas SOT
     

    Texas42

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    I believe that is illegal. Don't have the penal code to back it up, but I am very certain that it is a federal crime.

    I'll let someone else point out the exact laws.
     

    Acetone

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    Found it, nevermind.

    Among other things:

    18 USC Sec. 922

    (5) for any person (other than a licensed importer, licensed
    manufacturer, licensed dealer, or licensed collector) to
    transfer, sell, trade, give, transport, or deliver any firearm to
    any person (other than a licensed importer, licensed
    manufacturer, licensed dealer, or licensed collector) who the
    transferor knows or has reasonable cause to believe does not
    reside in (or if the person is a corporation or other business
    entity, does not maintain a place of business in) the State in
    which the transferor resides; except that this paragraph shall
    not apply to (A) the transfer, transportation, or delivery of a
    firearm made to carry out a bequest of a firearm to, or an
    acquisition by intestate succession of a firearm by, a person who
    is permitted to acquire or possess a firearm under the laws of
    the State of his residence, and (B) the loan or rental of a
    firearm to any person for temporary use for lawful sporting
    purposes;
     

    randmplumbingllc

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    Scenario:
    Buddy comes down from the North and I want to sell him a handgun, legal?[/quote]


    Just GIVE it as a gift. Then he can GIVE you some cash as a gift.

    Plus, who you kidding ? You got no "buddies"

    Just kidding, you might have one or two. LOL
     

    Wolfwood

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    Scenario:
    Buddy comes down from the North and I want to sell him a handgun, legal?


    Just GIVE it as a gift. Then he can GIVE you some cash as a gift.

    Plus, who you kidding ? You got no "buddies"

    Just kidding, you might have one or two. LOL[/quote]

    hahaha
     

    wgsigs

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    Just GIVE it as a gift. Then he can GIVE you some cash as a gift.
    I'm not a lawyer, but I believe the exception refers to to an inheritance, thus the use of the word "bequest", not just any old "gift". I think you would have to die and leave the gun to your friend.
     

    Acetone

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    I'm not a lawyer, but I believe the exception refers to to an inheritance, thus the use of the word "bequest", not just any old "gift". I think you would have to die and leave the gun to your friend.

    You are right, but I have no plans of going that far to give him a gun.

    Inheritance and I thought between immediate family...

    It doesn't say anything about immediate family, he just has to legally be able to have possession of the firearm.
     

    Nate C

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    It will only cost him $20-40 bucks to have it shipped from here to an FFL in his home state. Why risk all that legal grief over such a small dollar amount?
     

    Texas1911

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    True, but then add the transfer fee of $30-40 at one of his local FFL's.

    It's a felony ... do you really want to risk it? How stupid would it feel to get caught and spend $25,000 fighting a felony only to have your gun rights, his gun rights, your money, guns, and everything else forfeited over $100 in FFL fees?

    The law is bullshit, but until it get's changed you had better be sure you are willing to risk the consequences.
     

    Acetone

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    It's a felony ... do you really want to risk it? How stupid would it feel to get caught and spend $25,000 fighting a felony only to have your gun rights, his gun rights, your money, guns, and everything else forfeited over $100 in FFL fees?

    The law is bullshit, but until it get's changed you had better be sure you are willing to risk the consequences.

    I agree with you. After I found the law, my idea of gifting went away. I was merely pointing out that the transfer wouldn't cost $25 shipping.
     
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