I bought a .22 once at Wal-Mart, will never buy another one from them. The older guy behind the counter wasn't interested in seeing my CHL, said WM didn't care if you had one or not and he went through the whole insta-check thing. Once I filled out the 4473, he made a copy of it. I asked what the copy was for and after hedging a little, he finally told me they keep the original in the store and send the copy to the corp. office. I got real leary of the whole ordeal. He boxed up the gun and then escorted it and me out of the store before he would hand it to me. I have found Academy has similiar regulations. I'll pay a little more and buy from my local dealer who smiles when he rings up the sale and will take care of getting anything fixed if I have a problem. At Academy, it is yours and don't even think of bringing it back if you have a problem. My friendly local dealer also has ammo, which I haven't seen in WM or Academy in months.
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Hell on night in college I bought a 100 round pack JHP's and a case of beer at midnight and all I got checked for was the beer. The checker ran the bullets up then clear the comp when asked for birth date but had to see it for the beer.
yeah academy is a little shaky about all that stuff but my father got his first rifle from their and man is it a tack driver. freaking browning .270s are phenomenal, granted the cost will tear you up but hey overall well worth it. I dont know what academy you go to but the ones near me have tons of ammo, except small cal like 22 lr and 17 hmr for only God knows why and 7.62x39 but that is cause of gang bangers
Is the browning an A bolt or the newer X Bolt?
his version is the a bolt. he rarely shoots though, cept when out at the range. i should have been inclined to shoot it more since I am betting it doesnt have over 100 to 200 rnds in its life. plus i really like the bolt, just feels good. the only downside to browning, their magazines cost 60 bucks for a 4 rounder. gah i feel ripped everytime i remember how i bought a 2nd for my father.
None of WM's damn business if someone is a felon, and there would be no way for them to check on an ammo purchase. What this O.F. was was a pissed off geezer who had nothing better to do than card someone who was obviously wayyyyy older than 18 who happened to be buying 5,000 rounds of ammo as a way of flexinsome kind of imagined "authoritah"
I did kind of feel sorry for him when I saw him back in the greeters spot for about half a second, til he glared at me with a look that could kill
I hope he learned something, that actions have consequences, and be careful of who you are a dick to.
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Were you whering a short sleave shirt? That could have been descrimination by th O.F. And you're right it a'int none of WM's bitness what your back ground is that is the po po's job not theirs.None of WM's damn business if someone is a felon, and there would be no way for them to check on an ammo purchase. What this O.F. was was a pissed off geezer who had nothing better to do than card someone who was obviously wayyyyy older than 18 who happened to be buying 5,000 rounds of ammo as a way of flexinsome kind of imagined "authoritah"
I did kind of feel sorry for him when I saw him back in the greeters spot for about half a second, til he glared at me with a look that could kill
I hope he learned something, that actions have consequences, and be careful of who you are a dick to.
isn't it illegal for felons to try and buy ammunition?
i would think that if a company is contributing to a felon doing something illegal that it is their business, for their own sake.
ATF Online - Firearms FAQs
so if they sell you ammo, could one sue wally world for contributing to illegal activity?
like a wide variant of 'straw purchase' if you will
i would think that if a company is contributing to a felon doing something illegal that it is their business, for their own sake.
ATF Online - Firearms FAQs
so if they sell you ammo, could one sue wally world for contributing to illegal activity?
like a wide variant of 'straw purchase' if you will
Not the point. Some halfwitted clerk at WM has no way to determine if someone is a felon or not. Just out of curiosity, can you tell what a felon looks like?
the point was, you tried to correct someone because they wanted to id you and you said that it wasnt the law to id someone for ammo. 1st off they have to make sure you are of legal age no matter how old one can be over the limit. most places still card for alcohol unless you like walk with a cane. 2nd it is illegal to sell to a felon if he asks for id he can call in your license number to check with the atf cant he? if you choose to not show id, they can choose to not sell ammo. if we didnt have people selling ammo because they dont want to id we would have less gang bangers getting ammo or we would have more felons because of straw purchasers getting caught therefore less ammo getting to bad guys and more for good boys and girls to shoot at a cheaper cost.
Let me say this clearly.....THERE IS NO FEDERAL LAW TO ASK FOR ID FOR AMMO PURCHASES.
A wal mart clerk can not "check with the ATF on an ammo purchase.
If there was indeed a federal law, how then are internet purchases possible.
You really should understand what you are talking about before you type.
so then how does one distinguish age? can you tell someones age by how they look?
there is no direct law, but inadvertedly they must ask for id to know age since it is federal law to be over a certain age.
and maybe there should be.
there is no direct law, but inadvertedly they must ask for id to know age since it is federal law to be over a certain age.
and maybe there should be.
I buy literally tens of thousand rounds per year at many different venues. Gun stores do not ask for ID. Academy does not ask for ID. Cabela's does not ask for ID and MOST Wal Marts do not ask. This was a case of a cranky old geezer who , for whatever reason decided he did not like me and was going to flex on me. It cost him his job{ and the pay increase that went with it I imagine} and sent him back to the front door to greet the shoppers.
And no there should not be ANY more federal laws. You should try to break your public school brainwashing.
Please know what you are talking about before you post.
are you serious it makes the whole scheme of trying to limit ammo to felons all the more reasonable. i mean if you do not want to id and check on ammo then what good is a law that says felons cannot posses ammo? what good is having laws against straw purchases. hell what good is then telling felons you cant own a gun. WHAT IS WRONG WITH PULLING OUT AN ID? i mean you have to pull the wallet out to pay for the ammo is it that hard to show an id? i would rather show my id knowing less 'bad' people are getting a hold of ammo then being a hardass cause i dont want to show it. store policy has nothing to do with morality, those stores would sell to anyone if it meant an extra dollar in profit. public school brainwashing? considering i grew up in a repub town of 500 people with the average household owning at least 5 guns. i am quite the brainwashed one. sarcasm was used in the making of the previous sentence.
Age would be the only point for them to ask for ID. There is no sticker that I'm aware of on a DL that says, I'm a felon. I'm sure they could call and get verification through such places as DMV or ATF but that also takes time and risk the loss of a customer if their judgement of what a fellon looks like is wrong.
it seems careless and quite hypocritical to check guns but not ammo when both are illegal to the same types of people. is it solely price point that people check guns and not ammo?
id say dont profile do it to everyone. people would then be inclined to save up till they would care to wait the time or they would just wait the time. patience is a virtue after all
id say dont profile do it to everyone. people would then be inclined to save up till they would care to wait the time or they would just wait the time. patience is a virtue after all
I'm with Hoji on this one. I don't want to have to get checked to buy ammo. It isn't anyone's business on if I buy ammo or how much. I certainly don't feel the need to spend more time overloading the already slow NICS database to make some brady bunch politican feel like he is fighting crime.
If a felon breaks the law and gets a gun, he is going to be able to find ammo too.
If a felon breaks the law and gets a gun, he is going to be able to find ammo too.
then why not fight having to put your name in the system to buy a gun, either brand new or at a show? i mean if one cares enough to not do it because its ammo but does care cause it is a gun then that is a wacked sense of consistency. i say either be black and white with gun laws. there is no need for the grey areas that the govt creates.
what does it matter if you get checked to see if you are a felon it DOESN'T mean they will have records to the quantity you bought hell for all they know you could be buying in packs of 20 or 20,000. so it isnt anyones business if you buy ammo, just only when it comes to buying a weapon? last time i bought a gun i was able to get confirmation in like 3 to 5 minutes at the very most. i don't see what takes so long for other people.
so then are you passive concerning other types of people breaking the law or just when it comes to felons and firearms?
what does it matter if you get checked to see if you are a felon it DOESN'T mean they will have records to the quantity you bought hell for all they know you could be buying in packs of 20 or 20,000. so it isnt anyones business if you buy ammo, just only when it comes to buying a weapon? last time i bought a gun i was able to get confirmation in like 3 to 5 minutes at the very most. i don't see what takes so long for other people.
so then are you passive concerning other types of people breaking the law or just when it comes to felons and firearms?
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micah7488- I don't know how you think that more federal laws are ever going to help anything. and WALMART CAN NOT CHECK YOUR BACK GROUND OR CRIMINAL HISTORY FOR ANYTHING OTHER THAN FIREARMS PERCHAS. And they don't need to for a guy from a small town you sure have a liberal out-look. I can't imagine why someone would want to have there background ran every time they buy ammo, that is ridiculous. I suppose you are in favor of a week long waiting period to huh. I read where you said something about the wait time only taking you 3 to 5 minutes. I gather out of that you don't give a damn about the rest of the folks that get delayed you don't so there is no problem. I hope someone with your thinking doesn't wind up in the White house, or some other position of power then our gun rights will surly fall to dogs. 
And they don't need to for a guy from a small town you sure have a liberal out-look. I can't imagine why someone would want to have there background ran every time they buy ammo, that is ridiculous. I suppose you are in favor of a week long waiting period to huh. I read where you said something about the wait time only taking you 3 to 5 minutes. I gather out of that you don't give a damn about the rest of the folks that get delayed you don't so there is no problem. I hope someone with your thinking doesn't wind up in the White house, or some other position of power then our gun rights will surly fall to dogs. 
