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    ROSEVILLE, CA and BELLEVUE, WA — Law-abiding Californians are facing an increasing infringement on their Second Amendment right to keep and bear arms, say gun rights organizations Second Amendment Foundation and The Calguns Foundation.

    28 handgun models in common use were removed from the handgun roster by the California Department of Justice since January 28, 2014, and are now unavailable to gun buyers, reports Calguns. Of those, 22 are manufactured by Smith & Wesson, Inc.

    However, California gun owners have reason to be optimistic, say the groups. In a major development, firearm manufacturers Smith & Wesson and Sturm, Ruger & Co., Inc., have joined handgun maker Glock, Inc., in support of a federal Second Amendment civil rights lawsuit seeking to overturn the handgun regulation scheme commonly known as the “handgun roster.”

    “SAF will be eternally grateful for the timely support from all three companies, which we believe strongly reinforces our case,” said SAF founder and Executive Vice President Alan M. Gottlieb.

    In one of two new declarations filed with the trial court, Smith & Wesson CEO James Debney stated that “as a result of the microstamping requirement, Smith & Wesson is losing its ability to sell many of its semi-automatic handguns in California, as its handguns are forced off the roster [by the California Department of Justice].”

    The lawsuit, filed by Second Amendment Foundation and The Calguns Foundation, seeks to overturn the entire roster scheme and restore the full handgun market to California consumers. The case is helmed by noted civil rights attorneys Alan Gura of Alexandria, Virginia, Donald Kilmer of San Jose, California, and Jason Davis of Mission Viejo, California.

    In January, The Calguns Foundation published its report on the roster’s effects on the California handgun market, which illustrates that the roster is an effective ban on handguns in common use for self-defense. The report, based on the California Department of Justice’s own roster database, shows that an average of 59 semi-automatic handguns have been removed from the roster every year for the past decade. However, 58 handgun models have already been removed by DOJ since January 1 of this year, with many more removals expected in coming months.

    No new semi-automatic handguns may be placed on the Roster due to the DOJ’s enforcement of the “microstamping” requirement, which Calguns believes will lead to an increase in the rate of handgun removal. More, DOJ is apparently also requiring manufacturers to sign affidavits saying that no changes, even non-substantive changes in upstream components and suppliers, have been made since the handguns were submitted for testing.

    “Californians cannot acquire safe and reliable handguns in common use throughout the United States because of the roster and microstamping regulations,” explained Gene Hoffman, Chairman of The Calguns Foundation. “The roster is nothing short of a gun ban that infringes on fundamental Second Amendment rights. We look forward to proving that in court.”

    More information on the lawsuit, including the complaint, can be found at CGF Challenges CA Handgun Microstamping Requirement in Federal Civil Rights Lawsuit | Calguns FoundationCalguns Foundation.

    The Plaintiffs motion to supplement the record as well as the Ruger and Smith & Wesson declarations can be viewed at Case docket: Pena et al v. Cid.

    CGF’s California Handgun Roster report may be downloaded at California Handgun Roster | Calguns FoundationCalguns Foundation.

    The Calguns Foundation (Home | Calguns FoundationCalguns Foundation) is a 501(c)3 non-profit organization that serves its members, supporters, and the public through educational, cultural, and judicial efforts to defend and advance Second Amendment and related civil rights. Supporters may visit www.calgunsfoundation.org/donate to join or donate to CGF.

    The Second Amendment Foundation (Second Amendment Foundation) is the nation’s oldest and largest tax-exempt education, research, publishing and legal action group focusing on the Constitutional right and heritage to privately own and possess firearms. Founded in 1974, The Foundation has grown to more than 650,000 members and supporters and conducts many programs designed to better inform the public about the consequences of gun control. Supporters may visit www.saf.org/join to join or donate to SAF.


    DOJ Drops 28 Handguns from Roster after Firearm Manufacturers Back SAF, CGF Gun Lawsuit | Calguns FoundationCalguns Foundation
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    PhulesAu

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    Has anyone pointed out the fact , that none of these companies can be compelled to sell anything in california? I realize there's hugh chunk of money involved. But publicly telling telling CA to Fawk Off and die, might make up for it in favorable publicity. Just a thought.
     

    XinTX

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    Has anyone pointed out the fact , that none of these companies can be compelled to sell anything in california? I realize there's hugh chunk of money involved. But publicly telling telling CA to Fawk Off and die, might make up for it in favorable publicity. Just a thought.

    Or at least refuse to sell to the governments anything that the people cannot own. No sales to LEO if the citizens can't own the same thing.
     

    F350-6

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    In the long run pulling out is exactly what they are wanting

    True, and while I like the idea of gun makers telling CA to just piss off, I like the idea better of them suing Kalifornia and running up the legal bills and then running advertisements stating that taxes in CA are going up because the state is passing stupid laws and having to spend millions to defend itself.
     

    ROGER4314

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    Remington Arms just announced that they are building a plant in Alabama instead of staying in New York. They cite restrictive laws and surly government regulations in New York. Beretta is making a similar move as are other gun related companies. For them to dump money into a legal fight to stay in New York makes little sense as there are more friendly places to be. The next step is to refuse to sell to California as others have done.

    Round one went to the Liberals who crammed restrictive legislation down the throats of their citizens during Obama's attack on the Second Amendment. Round two took a while to get revved up but is clearly going against Liberal, anti gun politicians!

    I HATE to see honest and decent citizens lose their jobs but round THREE will be a voter backlash against Politicians who created this economic disaster.

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    ROGER4314

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    It would be funny if all they govt agencies there were armed with Hi-Points :P

    That was my first full laugh of today......thanks! No kidding, I just can't get over that one! How about Lorcin, Davis or some of the pot metal specials? OH...this hurts! snicker!

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    F350-6

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    Remington Arms just announced that they are building a plant in Alabama instead of staying in New York. They cite restrictive laws and surly government regulations in New York. Beretta is making a similar move as are other gun related companies. For them to dump money into a legal fight to stay in New York makes little sense as there are more friendly places to be. The next step is to refuse to sell to California as others have done.

    Round one went to the Liberals who crammed restrictive legislation down the throats of their citizens during Obama's attack on the Second Amendment. Round two took a while to get revved up but is clearly going against Liberal, anti gun politicians!

    I HATE to see honest and decent citizens lose their jobs but round THREE will be a voter backlash against Politicians who created this economic disaster.

    Flash

    The only thing that scares me about this is I'm afraid there's a step 2 1/2. The liberal masses, who are too stupid to realize what they've done, simply move to another state (where the jobs are) and then vote to screw things up in their new home.

    This of course helps step 3 happen because the people willing to work through things and stay are the ones smart enough to vote out the idiots running the show. It just doesn't bode well for those of us in states these idiots are moving too.
     

    M. Sage

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    Has anyone pointed out the fact , that none of these companies can be compelled to sell anything in california? I realize there's hugh chunk of money involved. But publicly telling telling CA to Fawk Off and die, might make up for it in favorable publicity. Just a thought.

    It's a tactical move for the lawsuit. Look at the line in the Heller decision that refers to "common use" and then look at this situation again. ;)
     

    ROGER4314

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    I'm not deluded that Liberal Socialists like Obama are going to quit their attacks on the Second Amendment. The next move will be against ammunition, gun shows, perhaps forums like TGT and use of the Internet to mobilize Pro gun individuals. What we say here could be interpreted as "an attack" against our Rulers.

    We'll just need to deal with stuff when it comes up!

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