Grid: Electricity shortages again

[oldag]

Yesterday, ERCOT issued a public appeal for conservation. ERCOT overestimated supply (wind did not produce what was forecast) and underestimated demand. Warnings were issued about reserves being below minimum. Winds have been down and so wind generation during peak demand hours is pretty low, will be again today.

Market prices spiked to $2k.

Yes, let's go 100% renewables...

 

[ZX9RCAM]

Wasn't even really hot yesterday....

 

[Darkpriest667]

They had shut down facilities for maintenance as it was predicted to be a cooler day than it was. They're prepping for summer for when they're really needed.

 

[cygunner]

When you need an excuse, any excuse will do.

 

[Rhino]

They got burned bad, so now they will cry wolf...

 

[Pistol Pete]

Time to get rid of ERCOT. PUC, do your job, if not, get rid of it and start over.

 

[Davetex]

So much demand being added daily from all the new houses and businesses. Is there any new supply being added to keep up?

I didn't really want to get a new Generac whole house, but I'm not gonna sit in 100° house.

 

[oldag]

They got burned bad, so now they will cry wolf...

Wasn't crying wolf. The reserves had fallen below minimums

 

[oldag]

They had shut down facilities for maintenance as it was predicted to be a cooler day than it was. They're prepping for summer for when they're really needed.

Correct. Maintenance outages were high, as they always are this time of year.

 

[Rhino]

Wasn't crying wolf. The reserves had fallen below minimums

I meant that they are burned, so they are gonna sound the alarm sooner rather than later. We're building crazy new subdivisions a lot faster than the infrastructure to supply them...

 

[striker55]

What's going to happen when all car's are electric powered?

 

[Coyote9]

So much demand being added daily from all the new houses and businesses. Is there any new supply being added to keep up?

I didn't really want to get a new Generac whole house, but I'm not gonna sit in 100° house.

Last year I bought a Craftsman 2500 watt gen and a a/c unit which it will power $625 total.

 

[Coyote9]

What's going to happen when all car's are electric powered?

Uhh bicycle?

 

[Davetex]

Last year I bought a Craftsman 2500 watt gen and a a/c unit which it will power $625 total.

I'm still kicking that around too. I have a 3500 watt Champion. Problem is
No electricity = No gasoline.
The Generac will be fueled by NG.

 

[V-Tach]

The day after Hurricane Harvey, they shut off the natural gas because of all the leaks....you could smell gas in the air everywhere.....but that is on the coast.........same thing happened in Moore OK after their two tornados according to a friend who lives there with a NG powered generator...he changed to LPG after the first one.

 

[Davetex]

The day after Hurricane Harvey, they shut off the natural gas because of all the leaks....you could smell gas in the air everywhere.....but that is on the coast.........same thing happened in Moore OK after their two tornados according to a friend who lives there with a NG powered generator...he changed to LPG after the first one.

LPG is by far the best option, but I'm guessing local rules and regs won't let me do that. Wish I could.

 

[awmp]

We just had this same discussion, when your electric car runs out on the side of the road what do you do? Hike to the store for a lot of batteries, this whole green energy thing has gotten out of hand, you would have thought during the winter storm that was just had folks would have learned a thing or two.

 

[oldag]

I meant that they are burned, so they are gonna sound the alarm sooner rather than later. We're building crazy new subdivisions a lot faster than the infrastructure to supply them...

Understand. But actually, there are pre-set levels at which the various notices are issued. So while that could have been the case, it was not.

 

[oldag]

I'm still kicking that around too. I have a 3500 watt Champion. Problem is
No electricity = No gasoline.
The Generac will be fueled by NG.

I am thinking large propane tank.

 

[m5215]

Well if they need more wind they better start praying to God for it!
No one else, especially the government, is going to be able to help with that.