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  • Sharon Waite

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    I'm hoping someone here can help me. I'm a writer working on a novel with a secondary character who's a former big city cop, now owner of his own security company. He's guarding a celebrity VIP who doesn't know he's her bodyguard. I figure he has to be armed, so I've given him an ankle holster with some kind of gun in it--probably a revolver of some type, right? (Please, be kind! I admitted I was ignorant!) Anyway, he and the gun end up falling in a lake. So my question is... What does he do about that wet gun? I'm figuring as soon as he climbs out of the lake, he's going to sit down on the dock, pull up his pants leg, take the gun out and... do what? (Other than shoot the girl who pulled him in the water! Not an option!) How do you dry out a gun? I"ve been Googling around and haven't been able to figure anything out. To make it more complicated, this is a relatively minor plot point and I can't spend too much time on it. Still, that wet gun is driving me crazy! Any help would be appreciated.
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    Patrón

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    I'm hoping someone here can help me. I'm a writer working on a novel with a secondary character who's a former big city cop, now owner of his own security company. He's guarding a celebrity VIP who doesn't know he's her bodyguard. I figure he has to be armed, so I've given him an ankle holster with some kind of gun in it--probably a revolver of some type, right? (Please, be kind! I admitted I was ignorant!) Anyway, he and the gun end up falling in a lake. So my question is... What does he do about that wet gun? I'm figuring as soon as he climbs out of the lake, he's going to sit down on the dock, pull up his pants leg, take the gun out and... do what? (Other than shoot the girl who pulled him in the water! Not an option!) How do you dry out a gun? I"ve been Googling around and haven't been able to figure anything out. To make it more complicated, this is a relatively minor plot point and I can't spend too much time on it. Still, that wet gun is driving me crazy! Any help would be appreciated.
    If he is going to shoot it right away, I say flip the cylinder and blow down the front of the barrel and maybe through the cylinder area as well.
    flip the cylinder back and bang.

    if he's not, do the same as above and maybe eject the rounds in the cylinder and blow through those holes as well.

    I'd give the bodyguard an automatic handgun unless the story takes place in the 70's or earlier and he wouldn't carry it on his ankle unless it is a backup weapon.
     

    okie556

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    In fiction and real life a revolver would still function straight out of the water.....as would any good semi-auto. The imediate action would be to remove ammo & dry along with drying gun. If realism is important..........later that night gun should be throughly cleaned and oiled.

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    JKTex

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    Ya, it showed up twice. :p

    It's a story, he's gonna come up shooting at the bad guy and get off about 13 rounds from that 5 round revolver and never have to reload and if it's not at the end of the story, all 13 shots at 5-10 feet will miss, miss everything.

    If he's got a small revolver in an ankle holster, he's probably not going to do much, if anything that wold be interesting in a book. Clean and oil it later at home, but other than that, if he pulls it out, not planning on using it, he may just blow the water out of it, then not put it back in the wet leather (if it's a good one :p ) holster.
     

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    If he is going to shoot it right away, I say flip the cylinder and blow down the front of the barrel and maybe through the cylinder area as well. flip the cylinder back and bang.

    Just be sure to politely ask the bad guy to be patient while he blows his gun.... ;)

    BTW, you might want to delete the text from one of these threads so you wont continue to have people posting in both.
     

    Texas1911

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    If the gun gets soaked there is a greater propensity for dead ammo (the primer is killed by the water), but generally they will fire just the same. If the gun is full of water, it's possible that it can explode since water is relatively incompressible.

    Long story short, you'd simply wring it a few times to get most of the water out of it and pull the trigger.

    Thanks for asking before you publish something though. If only we could get Hollywood to actually do the same...
     

    Sharon Waite

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    You guys are great. (And funny!) Thanks for the help! I'll probably show up again with another question at some point... Wait... Okay, I know this is stupid, but should I refer to the gun in the ankle holster as a revolver or a pistol? (This is what you get for not laughing me off...)
     

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    You guys are great. (And funny!) Thanks for the help! I'll probably show up again with another question at some point... Wait... Okay, I know this is stupid, but should I refer to the gun in the ankle holster as a revolver or a pistol? (This is what you get for not laughing me off...)


    I'd say revolver


    An ex-cop, it's likely the .38spl snubby eh? Maybe in a nice blue
     

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    Macgyver it up a bit and have him whip out a can of compressed air from his jacket to blow the water out of the gun.

    Seriously though, ditch the revolver/ankle holster and give the guy a custom Les Baer 1911 .45acp in a Milt Sparks inside-the-waistband (IWB) holster.
     

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    Revolver if it's a snubnose. Don't have him flip the cylinder open & closed, it's the mark of a novice. Doing that flipping will bend the crane, yoke, or the ejector rod.

    If he's trying to not get made an appendix carry, inside the waistband holster, would be a great choice. It's easier to access and less
    susceptible to a being made if some one tries a bump frisk.
     

    Texas42

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    Not to sound rude or demeaning, but a real, bona fide body guard wouldn't keep his primary gun in his shoe or ankle.

    It would be on his hip.
     

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    Not to sound rude or demeaning, but a real, bona fide body guard wouldn't keep his primary gun in his shoe or ankle.

    It would be on his hip.


    And to elaborate to the OP why, it is because an ankle carry is not located for quick access when standing or in normal circumstances where you would be interacting with the populus. Drawing from the ankle is a last resort as you have to be bent over, sitting down, laying down and in general off your feet and immobilized. An example is tryping to pull up your slinky, no-elastic sock while walking


    A more accessible location for carry is around the waistline, pockets or shoulder carry. These are areas that can easily be reached when walking/standing, some even when sitting (as in office or car)
     

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    I'm hoping someone here can help me. I'm a writer working on a novel with a secondary character who's a former big city cop, now owner of his own security company. He's guarding a celebrity VIP who doesn't know he's her bodyguard. I figure he has to be armed, so I've given him an ankle holster with some kind of gun in it--probably a revolver of some type, right? (Please, be kind! I admitted I was ignorant!) Anyway, he and the gun end up falling in a lake. So my question is... What does he do about that wet gun? I'm figuring as soon as he climbs out of the lake, he's going to sit down on the dock, pull up his pants leg, take the gun out and... do what? (Other than shoot the girl who pulled him in the water! Not an option!) How do you dry out a gun? I"ve been Googling around and haven't been able to figure anything out. To make it more complicated, this is a relatively minor plot point and I can't spend too much time on it. Still, that wet gun is driving me crazy! Any help would be appreciated.

    Hi Sharon. Thanks for joining us! :) We're glad to help out with any questions you may have. Although some of these hooligans here may give you a hard time (all in good fun of course), I'll do my best to help out. ;)

    Usually you'd see a small revolver used in an ankle holster as a backup gun, and for the character being an ex police officer that is a completely realistic type of carry method. Though, for the individual being a private security/bodyguard like that, this would usually not be their primary and/or only type of carry method. Generally you would usually have a primary (meaning larger) handgun which would usually be concealed somewhere around the waistband area, possibly even in a shoulder holster depending on what clothing is worn. Here's some pictures to give you an idea:

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    TexasRedneck

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    Better yet - no bodyguard is going to use an ankle holster as a primary weapon - too hard to access when the chips are down. Normally, in an escort situation you're going to be wearing a jacket - which allows you to go with a shoulder rig or a SOB <small of the back> holster. A shoulder rig will more readily enable you to also carry spare mags on the "off" side.
    A good idea might be to visit a local gun shop and look at the various concealment rigs out there - or the local Cop Shop.
    A semi will lend itself to concealment in SOB/shoulder better than a revolver, IMO - and if your guy is pretty good sized, he could go up to a .45 without a problem. If you want a real twist, have them go back to her (or his) place - hers would be better since he'd have cleaning gear at his. Have him unload the gun while he's putting the oven on "warm", then put the pistol in the oven to dry out for a couple of hours (yes, it will really work). He can then scrounge around her place for some oil - even the venerable 3-in-1 oil would work (and she could realistically have some for a sewing machine, etc). Of course, while the guns in the oven.......well, you get the idea. ;)
     

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    Better yet - no bodyguard is going to use an ankle holster as a primary weapon - too hard to access when the chips are down. Normally, in an escort situation you're going to be wearing a jacket - which allows you to go with a shoulder rig or a SOB <small of the back> holster. A shoulder rig will more readily enable you to also carry spare mags on the "off" side.
    A good idea might be to visit a local gun shop and look at the various concealment rigs out there - or the local Cop Shop.
    A semi will lend itself to concealment in SOB/shoulder better than a revolver, IMO - and if your guy is pretty good sized, he could go up to a .45 without a problem. If you want a real twist, have them go back to her (or his) place - hers would be better since he'd have cleaning gear at his. Have him unload the gun while he's putting the oven on "warm", then put the pistol in the oven to dry out for a couple of hours (yes, it will really work). He can then scrounge around her place for some oil - even the venerable 3-in-1 oil would work (and she could realistically have some for a sewing machine, etc). Of course, while the guns in the oven.......well, you get the idea. ;)
    Dang, you writing a novel too? :)

    +1 on an automatic. I figure if he is a body guard, and she doesn't know it, then an SOB would be the way to go. She might get suspicious as to why he wears a jacket everywhere they go. Especially swimming.
     

    Sharon Waite

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    I totally get what you're saying about the waistband carry, but can't do it because of my STUPID PLOT!!! Our heroine really isn't in any danger and he knows it. Nobody's after her. They're in a fairly isolated place. He's running around in T-shirt and jeans. The guy isn't stupid. If he really thought she was in danger, he'd be armed to the teeth. That said, I still think he needs a weapon on him, which is why I chose the ankle holster. I am, however, going to take your comments into account and write something about it in. Okay, back to work. Thanks again!
     
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