Guys, I did not mean to kick a hornets nest.Take your ball and go home.
It does not matter to me who believes what (that is the Libertarian in me). I do think I know a little about what I am talking about. I have practiced law almost 30 years; I have taken continuing legal education on these very issues; and been a gun owner for longer. Does that make me correct? Nope. It only means I may have some education and perspective on the issues that others may not have.
The discussion of rights versus civil liberties, what is constitutional and what is not, what should be constitutional and what should not, whether a constitutional right should be read more broadly or more narrowly, etc etc is is certainly interesting to discuss, but not worth anyone getting their dander raised over it.
At the end of the day we all share a common hobby and common interests.