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    Gun maker seeks ways to build a safer weapon

    DAYTONA BEACH, Fla. — Jonathan Mossberg is among a small number of pioneers looking to build a safer gun. But unlike many others, he was in the gun business when he started down that path.

    His family is renowned for its premier line of shotguns treasured by law enforcement, hunters and the military...Read

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    V-Tach

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    No thanks......even if someone named Mossberg thinks it's a great idea.....I don't...

    jmho....
     

    RstyShcklfrd

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    This is a neat idea and if they can make it work, that'd be cool too.

    But I certainly wouldn't ever own any firearm with this technology.
     

    benenglish

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    This is a neat idea and if they can make it work, that'd be cool too.

    But I certainly wouldn't ever own any firearm with this technology.
    Yeah, see, that's the problem. When that guy in California started to sell those .22 pistols that could only be fired by someone wearing a special watch, people realized it would trigger a New Jersey statute. There's a law on the books in New Jersey mandating that as soon as a real "smart gun" is marketed anywhere in the U.S., New Jersey outlaws all regular handguns and requires that only smart guns may be sold. The old guns are allowed to stick around and the gun shops would have 30 months to get rid of their inventory but the intended result is that the sales of new handguns in NJ would essentially cease ~3 years after someone, anyone, anywhere in the U.S. starts selling "smart guns."

    So, if somebody can make this work, it would NOT be cool.

    While I have no love for New Jersey, no gun shop owner wants to be the guy who totally screwed over all the pistol shooters in that state.

    The anti-gun legislator that came up with that New Jersey law back in 2002 has since realized that "smart gun" development and eventual sales have been essentially killed because of the law. Once it dawned on her that her initial dream of creating a world where only smart guns existed, she wrote a new bill that was passed by the NJ legislature. The new bill got rid of the ban on traditional firearms in exchange for mandating that all FFLs stock and sell smart guns, too. Governor Christie vetoed it.

    AFAIK, the "sell smart guns, screw over your brothers in NJ" law is still on the books.

    If somebody has more up-to-date info, please share. I haven't researched this topic in quite a while.
     

    RstyShcklfrd

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    Yeah, see, that's the problem. When that guy in California started to sell those .22 pistols that could only be fired by someone wearing a special watch, people realized it would trigger a New Jersey statute. There's a law on the books in New Jersey mandating that as soon as a real "smart gun" is marketed anywhere in the U.S., New Jersey outlaws all regular handguns and requires that only smart guns may be sold. The old guns are allowed to stick around and the gun shops would have 30 months to get rid of their inventory but the intended result is that the sales of new handguns in NJ would essentially cease ~3 years after someone, anyone, anywhere in the U.S. starts selling "smart guns."

    So, if somebody can make this work, it would NOT be cool.

    While I have no love for New Jersey, no gun shop owner wants to be the guy who totally screwed over all the pistol shooters in that state.

    The anti-gun legislator that came up with that New Jersey law back in 2002 has since realized that "smart gun" development and eventual sales have been essentially killed because of the law. Once it dawned on her that her initial dream of creating a world where only smart guns existed, she wrote a new bill that was passed by the NJ legislature. The new bill got rid of the ban on traditional firearms in exchange for mandating that all FFLs stock and sell smart guns, too. Governor Christie vetoed it.

    AFAIK, the "sell smart guns, screw over your brothers in NJ" law is still on the books.

    If somebody has more up-to-date info, please share. I haven't researched this topic in quite a while.

    Then the issue should be addressed politically. I can absolutely guarantee you that no one will stop pursuing this technology just because of laws like that.
     

    benenglish

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    Then the issue should be addressed politically. I can absolutely guarantee you that no one will stop pursuing this technology just because of laws like that.
    Oh, certainly, there are folks who will continue to research the technology. The political realities, though, mean that the technology will not come to market until the first person decides they don't care about how much damage they do to the shooting community. That FFL-holder will have to be a real idiot to both screw over NJ shooters and put himself out of business because of the backlash he'll get.

    You're absolutely right that a political solution is needed.

    Frankly, I'm surprised that some anti-gun group hasn't already gotten an FFL, opened a shop, put a couple of Armatix iP1 pistols in their display case, had some other anti-gun activist buy one, and, thus, deliberately triggered the NJ law.
     

    Bozz10mm

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    I wouldn't like the idea of having to sleep with the bracelet on my arm in case something goes bump in the night or I wake up to the sound of breaking glass.
     
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