Gun shop in Carrollton

Texsun

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Anybody like SPS Josey at Beltline?
 

malladus

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I stop in there about once or twice a week. Usually buy something about every 4th visit or so. There prices are about what the market will bear, so no real bargains, but they aren't really gouging either. They usually have some of most the regular the popular calibres in as well as the exotic stuff. They carry a good selection of hunting bullets, powders (which they have several pounds of a bunch of types). I can usually score some primers in there as well if I need some ASAP, although once again they are sort of a market will bear type pricing. Don't be expecting to get really good deals. Also, the marked prices are for cash and debit cards, credit cards are 5% more. They carry RCBS reloading press parts as well as some other manudfacutures. They carry several brands of dies, and have a decent selection of reloading stuff on hand for a shop their size and in this hiysteria packed time we are in. They do some gunsmithing as well.

On the gun inventory, they have a few pistols, bunch of shotguns, a few assault rifles and other california unfriendly weapons. They do layaways and they will also order for you as well if you want something special.

I've talked to the owner and a bunch of the regulars, standard gunshop type of guys. There is another older guy that works in their that is a little rough around the edges and seems brusk at first, but once you start talking with him he's okay. There is a third guy I've seen working in there the last three weeks or so, seems to mostly be doing inventory, pricing, and organizing stuff.

In general I would say they are you average local gunshop. Okay prices, decent service, lots of advice, and not a box store.

malladus

PS - hope you like dogs, they got a big choclate lab that belongs to the owner that hangs out on the floor in front of the counters when he is in. Makes the crowded space a bit hard to steer through at times.
 

Bullseye Shooter

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Also, the marked prices are for cash and debit cards, credit cards are 5% more.
You might mention this to them next time you use a credit card in their store, since it's illegal for them to add a surcharge:

§339.001. IMPOSITION OF SURCHARGE FOR USE OF CREDIT CARD. (a) In a sale of goods or services, a seller may not impose a surcharge on a buyer who uses a credit card for an extension of credit instead of cash, a check, or a similar means of payment.

(b) This section does not apply to a state agency, county, local governmental entity, or other governmental entity that accepts a credit card for the payment of fees, taxes, or other charges. (c) The Finance Commission of Texas shall have exclusive jurisdiction to enforce and adopt rules relating to this section. Rules adopted pursuant to this section shall be consistent with federal laws and regulations governing credit card transactions described by this section. This section does not create a cause of action against an individual for violation of this section.

From the Texas Finance Code, Chapter 339: http://www.occc.state.tx.us/pages/Legal/Laws/fcode/2005/ch339.html
 

JKTex

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You might mention this to them next time you use a credit card in their store, since it's illegal for them to add a surcharge:

§339.001. IMPOSITION OF SURCHARGE FOR USE OF CREDIT CARD. (a) In a sale of goods or services, a seller may not impose a surcharge on a buyer who uses a credit card for an extension of credit instead of cash, a check, or a similar means of payment.

(b) This section does not apply to a state agency, county, local governmental entity, or other governmental entity that accepts a credit card for the payment of fees, taxes, or other charges. (c) The Finance Commission of Texas shall have exclusive jurisdiction to enforce and adopt rules relating to this section. Rules adopted pursuant to this section shall be consistent with federal laws and regulations governing credit card transactions described by this section. This section does not create a cause of action against an individual for violation of this section.

From the Texas Finance Code, Chapter 339: Chapter 339.Miscellaneous Provisions Relating to Interest

That's very interesting. Thanks for posting that.

I wonder if offering a discount for payment other than credit card gets you around it? Guess I'd need to read the whole thing.

EDIT. Last line " This section does not create a cause of action against an individual for violation of this section.". Kinda takes the teeth out of it. Unless there's something else somewhere.
 

malladus

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Interesting, but not my place to tell him how to run his business since I'm not sure if he is doing it as a surcharge or as a discount (perfectly legal).

malladus
 

navyguy

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That's very interesting. Thanks for posting that.

I wonder if offering a discount for payment other than credit card gets you around it? Guess I'd need to read the whole thing.

EDIT. Last line " This section does not create a cause of action against an individual for violation of this section.". Kinda takes the teeth out of it. Unless there's something else somewhere.
I think if there are a lot of complaints, they could loose their merchants account. But in today's business environment that is not a big issue. We get calls just about weekly from credit card companies wanting us to switch to them.

They all do that one price for cash, another or credit card at the gun shows. One guy there told me it was because not being at their store credit card terminal, and the sale was considered "off line" and they got charged more. Well okay. Maybe the difference between 2.5% and 3%. To me that's no reason to pass on all of the charges to the customer. I understand costs associated with running a business, but accepting credit cards makes it easy to insure you get paid (no bad checks to chase down) and people tend to spend more and worry less about pricing when they use credit cards.
 

Bullseye Shooter

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Last line " This section does not create a cause of action against an individual for violation of this section.". Kinda takes the teeth out of it. Unless there's something else somewhere.
Didn't mean to hijack the post with the credit card surcharge thing. I did check and "individual" is just that, but a business is not an individual according to their regulations, so they can take action against a business that refuses to not charge the surcharge. Non-compliance is referred to the AG's office.
 

idleprocess

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A merchant can have different prices for cash or credit and advertise them. They can have a cash discount. They cannot directly pass the credit card processing fee on to the customer - they are expected to price their wares to cover that fee. I believe the intent of the law is "truth in advertising" on the sticker price.

Credit card merchants have similar policies. Their customers are card holders, so they discourage any practice that makes card purchases more expensive or otherwise less attractive. Of course, they can't do anything about "cash price" vs "credit price" because the two have legitimate differences in overall transaction cost because of their processing fees.
 

Texsun

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Bachman pawn and gun has the same sign inside cash price=xx.xx c.c.price=xx.xx
 

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