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  • Dash Riprock

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    I heard a little bit about this on the radio yesterday. The article is a bit sparse on details, but from what I heard on the radio this happened at Saxet recently. Some of us probably saw this guy.

    Felon charged with gun show sale to undercover cop | khou.com Houston

    SAN ANTONIO -- A South Texas man who served time for dealing firearms without a license has been charged with selling a weapon to an undercover officer at an Austin gun show.

    A federal judge in San Antonio has ordered 65-year-old Manuel "Manny" Rodriguez of Spring Branch to remain in custody pending trial.

    Prosecutors on Wednesday announced the arrest on a charge of being a felon in possession of a firearm. Rodriguez on Aug. 18 allegedly sold a pistol to an undercover officer for $650.

    A search warrant carried out last week at the suspect's home led to the seizure of 76 firearms, including assault rifles, and about $15,000.

    Rodriguez served nearly four years in prison on a 2002 California conviction for possession of a machine gun and dealing firearms without a license.
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    V-Tach

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    A search warrant carried out last week at the suspect's home led to the seizure of 76 firearms, including assault rifles, and about $15,000.

    Yes, he's an idiot.....and a DB.....
     

    Dash Riprock

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    I agree; you have to be a bit special to break the law again.

    On the other hand, he didn't really do anything wrong.

    Well, I would assume that as a convicted felon, he's not allowed to possess a firearm, much less sell one, licensed or not. I will admit I'm no expert in laws pertaining to felons owning firearms, so someone please correct me if I'm wrong.
     
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    Mexican_Hippie

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    I think you have to look at why he was a felon in the first place.

    I think it's F'ed up that someone would go to jail in the first place for having a business selling firearms or owning machine guns w/o some permission from a bunch of jack wagon ATF tax collectors.

    Maybe he's a bad guy supplying other bad guys with guns, maybe he isn't. We don't know with the info given. All we know is that he broke a law.
     

    Texan2

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    I think you have to look at why he was a felon in the first place.

    I think it's F'ed up that someone would go to jail in the first place for having a business selling firearms or owning machine guns w/o some permission from a bunch of jack wagon ATF tax collectors.

    Maybe he's a bad guy supplying other bad guys with guns, maybe he isn't. We don't know with the info given. All we know is that he broke a law.
    I don't think we need to look at that. If you want to debate a certain law, then maybe, but the fact is they guy knew he was a convicted felon. He knew he couldn't possess or sell guns.

    Zero sympathy.
     

    wakal

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    The Second Amendment does not have a "felon" clause.

    In fact, it just says "...shall not be infringed."

    If he was dangerous, he should be locked up. If not, then he is a citizen of these United States.
     

    Texan2

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    The Second Amendment does not have a "felon" clause.

    In fact, it just says "...shall not be infringed."

    If he was dangerous, he should be locked up. If not, then he is a citizen of these United States.
    Maybe in a black and white world that would work, but that's not the one we live in.
     

    London

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    The Second Amendment does not have a "felon" clause.

    In fact, it just says "...shall not be infringed."

    If he was dangerous, he should be locked up. If not, then he is a citizen of these United States.


    While I agree a lot of felons should be given a second chance far beyond what they get now, and I agree he should have never been to prison in the first place, the fact is his right to own a gun was taken Constitutionally at least as far as the 5th and 14th amendments are concerned (but not the 2nd IMO). He got his due process.

    This is the same legal principal which allows us to force sex offenders to register with the state for life even though they've "Done their time."
     

    Texan2

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    Hhmmm....I'm assuming that he was either identified before his entrapment, or he was identified subsequent to said entrapment. I gather that it was his convicted felony status made his actions "criminal.?

    I understand about the restrictions that dog felons after they've paid their debt to society, but....--PPT
    Giving a criminal the opportunity to commit a crime is not entrapment.
     

    Mexican_Hippie

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    I don't think we need to look at that. If you want to debate a certain law, then maybe, but the fact is they guy knew he was a convicted felon. He knew he couldn't possess or sell guns.

    Zero sympathy.

    Same as the Jews having guns in the Warsaw Ghetto. They knew guns were disallowed by law.

    I guess they had it all coming to them...because all laws are just? Zero sympathy?

    ETA: Point being, we accuse him of violating unjust and unconstitutional laws and then we throw him in jail twice. I think this is the perfect exams of glaring flaws in the way we do things. That IS tyranny by definition.
     
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    wakal

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    Maybe in a black and white world that would work, but that's not the one we live in.

    It was until we went over the Kennedy "bag limit" and the 1968 GCA was passed. With, of course, the braying help of the Socialists, American Communist Party, Democrats...and the NRA.

    Until then, once you paid your debt to society you were done with the punishment. Now, not so much...it ain't over until Mongo says it is over (and you are about out of grape jelly)...


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