Texasgrillchef
Active Member
Your optimism appears to be only exceeded by your pessimism. Ruby Riodge and Waco have nothing to do with this.
All i was pointing out with both of those is that both sides failed in their goals and tasks and many were injured and or killed. Meaning also in both instances that citizens fought back against the feds, and in both cases the Feds left with their tales between their legs. Not the "win" they were wanting and hoping for.