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Reminds me of a Pinky and the Brain episode where he needs US Foreign aid...If Texas were to secede do you reckon we could get some foreign aid from the USA?
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Reminds me of a Pinky and the Brain episode where he needs US Foreign aid...If Texas were to secede do you reckon we could get some foreign aid from the USA?
Second biggest mistake Texas ever made was joining the Confederacy.The biggest mistake Texas ever made was joining the union.
I suspect you aren’t done yet. There will be a few more started over this topic.Redundant threads merged.
More importantly will they need one to visit us?Will I need a passport to go to Oklahoma?
You will need a phone book. Not all outhouses have tp.Will I need a passport to go to Oklahoma?
Hate to say this, but the bill is political grandstanding by Biederman. I suspect he wants to make a run for Governor in the near future.
The bill, even if passed, sent to the voters and got an overwhelming ‘for’ doesn’t result in secession, and to ruin everyone’s wet dream, that wouldn’t happen any ways. To paraphrase Antonin Scalia, the question of being able to leave the union was settled in 1864.
But, I’ll entertain the thought that it did happen for just a minute. So, what happens if....
1. Fed jobs, assets (to include all those tanks and jets in the Texas Guard) go back to where they came from. Military City USA, VA and all other federal facilities and jobs, Kingsville NAS, Ft Hood, Ft Bliss, all the Pantex shit on the NE corner of Amarillo evaporates, poof....gone. US Border Patrol relocates all their shit to the NM, OK, ArkLaTex borders. We’d probably get to keep those helium reserves in the panhandle, though.
2. Every FDIC-backed institution leaves the state, so kiss your bank/credit union goodbye. These people along with the peeps in 1. above, go bye-bye because there employers offer to relocate them to the US.
3. If you think guns/ammo are as rare as unicorn farts right now, imagine what it’s gonna be like when ITAR restrictions prevent 49 states in a different country from exporting shit here. I mean it’ll make Califuckistan look like a veritable rainbow colored Utopia in comparison.
5. You’d have Greg Abbot as President and Sam Houston would roll over in his grave.
And they lose the 8th largest economy on the planet's tax base. So yeah they can have their shit back. We can build or buy our own. I bet the Israelis would cut us hell of a deal.
Will I need a passport to go to Oklahoma?
.Hate to say this, but the bill is political grandstanding by Biederman. I suspect he wants to make a run for Governor in the near future.
The bill, even if passed, sent to the voters and got an overwhelming ‘for’ doesn’t result in secession, and to ruin everyone’s wet dream, that wouldn’t happen any ways. To paraphrase Antonin Scalia, the question of being able to leave the union was settled in 1864.
But, I’ll entertain the thought that it did happen for just a minute. So, what happens if....
1. Fed jobs, assets (to include all those tanks and jets in the Texas Guard) go back to where they came from. Military City USA, VA and all other federal facilities and jobs, Kingsville NAS, Ft Hood, Ft Bliss, all the Pantex shit on the NE corner of Amarillo evaporates, poof....gone. US Border Patrol relocates all their shit to the NM, OK, ArkLaTex borders. We’d probably get to keep those helium reserves in the panhandle, though.
2. Every FDIC-backed institution leaves the state, so kiss your bank/credit union goodbye. These people along with the peeps in 1. above, go bye-bye because there employers offer to relocate them to the US.
3. If you think guns/ammo are as rare as unicorn farts right now, imagine what it’s gonna be like when ITAR restrictions prevent 49 states in a different country from exporting shit here. I mean it’ll make Califuckistan look like a veritable rainbow colored Utopia in comparison.
5. You’d have Greg Abbot as President and Sam Houston would roll over in his grave.
Yes, when...Can you do that twice?
...there are three threads, like in this case.He can even merge three threads, without blinking an eye!
And the future Texas economy shrinks to poverty pony status when all those people and jobs go away. Trust me, I don’t like it but it is what it is.
Set your corporate tax rate at 15% and watch the US economy bleed. Set up a new trade agreement with Mexico and we're in business. Hell we could have OPEN borders with Mexico and restrict US borders. I'm serious. Illegal immigration won't be a thing and we'll create millions of jobs in Mexico.
TEXAS alone is an OPEC nation
This is geopolitical truth far beyond what most people can comprehend. When it comes to the economic side of the equation, Texas could easily stand on it's own. Hell, we've got the Permian Basin and we know how to frack. If the Saudis could become filthy rich off just one asset, our much more diversified economy could soar.you know what a country is without Port tonnage movement capability?
Texas should seize and nationalize Pantex. There's nothing that more effectively keeps the big boys from kicking over your sand castle than equipping your small military with a few really big bombs.1. Fed jobs, assets ... go back to where they came from. ... all the Pantex shit on the NE corner of Amarillo evaporates...
The FDIC backing would go away but would those banks want to abandon the Texas market? Many of them do business all over the world; Texas would be no different for them. Some would close but for most staying open in Texas would be a valid business strategy.2. Every FDIC-backed institution leaves the state, so kiss your bank/credit union goodbye.
There are plenty of countries that would be thrilled to trade us guns and ammo for petroleum. Hell, there are some who would build us a manufacturing plant or two. I'd be happy to write an invitation to Lapua to set up production facilities on some former military base or section thereof that we could give them.3. If you think guns/ammo are as rare as unicorn farts right now, imagine what it’s gonna be like when ITAR restrictions prevent 49 states in a different country from exporting ...
Excuse me while I go throw up.5. You’d have Greg Abbot as President and Sam Houston would roll over in his grave.
Maybe there are some among us who are. The question is, can they be identified, supported, and promoted.We don't have a group of founding fathers ready to go with the vision and morality to make a success of it. I think everyone knows that.
This is geopolitical truth far beyond what most people can comprehend. When it comes to the economic side of the equation, Texas could easily stand on it's own. Hell, we've got the Permian Basin and we know how to frack. If the Saudis could become filthy rich off just one asset, our much more diversified economy could soar.
Disengaging from the federal (mostly regulatory) structure would be very difficult, though. So let's take a look at the examples cited by toddnjoyce. There are a million more problems that would have to be addressed but let's start with these.
Texas should seize and nationalize Pantex. There's nothing that more effectively keeps the big boys from kicking over your sand castle than equipping your small military with a few really big bombs.
The FDIC backing would go away but would those banks want to abandon the Texas market? Many of them do business all over the world; Texas would be no different for them. Some would close but for most staying open in Texas would be a valid business strategy.
There are plenty of countries that would be thrilled to trade us guns and ammo for petroleum. Hell, there are some who would build us a manufacturing plant or two. I'd be happy to write an invitation to Lapua to set up production facilities on some former military base or section thereof that we could give them.
Excuse me while I go throw up.
Look, let me be clear.
None of this is going to happen.
We don't have a group of founding fathers ready to go with the vision and morality to make a success of it. I think everyone knows that.
But it sure is a fun thought experiment.
Nope.Maybe there are some among us who are. The question is, can they be identified, supported, and promoted.
Gonna disagree. The principles the founders operated on are still with us. The writings they read are, as well. Reading, understanding, and being willing to apply those principles and take baby steps personally is first. Organizing and supporting local groups of friends who are interested is second. Not everyone of the the founders was an orator like Patrick Henry, and sometimes the orators don't become the leaders. I think the biggest thing lacking is the willingness to sacrifice one's own time, and fortune - as the founders said, “We Mutually Pledge To Each Other Our Lives, Our Fortunes, And Our Sacred Honor…” which is the biggest thing lacking in the gun circles at the moment, the willingness to sacrifice comfort, personal wealth, and potential reputation, because we are too short-sighted to believe that the end goal would be worth it.Nope.
But the wayne le pew types would sure offer to "help".
Gonna disagree. The principles the founders operated on are still with us. The writings they read are, as well. Reading, understanding, and being willing to apply those principles and take baby steps personally is first. Organizing and supporting local groups of friends who are interested is second. Not everyone of the the founders was an orator like Patrick Henry, and sometimes the orators don't become the leaders. I think the biggest thing lacking is the willingness to sacrifice one's own time, and fortune - as the founders said, “We Mutually Pledge To Each Other Our Lives, Our Fortunes, And Our Sacred Honor…” which is the biggest thing lacking in the gun circles at the moment, the willingness to sacrifice comfort, personal wealth, and potential reputation, because we are too short-sighted to believe that the end goal would be worth it.
I personally think some of the guys at TREX Arms would qualify, and think we should be looking for others who we can get behind and push forward.