Help with MAC purchase

Discussion in 'Class III / NFA' started by TXSRT, Jan 7, 2009.

  1. TXSRT

    TXSRT New Member

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    Hey yall! I'm new to the board and new to the world of Class III and SMG/SBR's. I have been doing some reading and looking around. For my first purchase I'm looking at a Mac or some sort. However, as many of you know, there are a number of choices when it comes to these. I found a Texas Mac for sale, its a 10A1. I think its semi though. Can anyone tell me how to find out if this is one of the early Texas Mac that was tack welded or if this is one of the later made texas macs from the buyout that is TIG welded? I would prefer a .45 or 9mm over the .380

    Any recommendations from owners to a specific manufacturer? RPB? SWD? etc...

    Is there any other good site to try and find out more info on these and which model, production years are the more desireable ones? Thanks in advance guys!
     


  2. baboon

    baboon Well-Known

    I had a RPB. They are fun to shoot and thats about all I can say good about a Mac 10. For the money & would look at a M-2 carbine.
     
  3. mac79912

    mac79912 Well-Known

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    Macpistol.com had some info but something happened to the website and the info is now very limited.I have a full auto Ingram Mac 10 that was willed to me and it is cool to shoot.Try uzitalk.com and enter the forum section.
     
  4. ducksps

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    ?????

    You mention you think the MAC may be semi? Is it an NFA registered item as either a 'Short barreld Rifle" or "machinegun"? from memory the M10 is able to be used in 9mm or 45 by changing the upper receiver.
     
  5. TXSRT

    TXSRT New Member

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    Ok, well, I'm looking at buying it from a dealer in another state. He has MAC 10 and 11's available for sale. I'm looking at the 10. Its listed as a .45 SMG open bolt and he says that all MFA rules apply when it comes to sales. So I am assuming with this one, that it is indeed a real deal SMG.

    Ducksps, the other one I referenced, the guy has mistitled. He had that is was and SMG and a semi in the same ad. When I asked about it he said it was a semi, so I ruled that out. Plus, these SMG's are available at a reasonable price compared to what I have seen with other similar guns.

    One more question, as the seller doesn't list the maker, should I assume that these are Military Armament Co.'s? Or is it an Ingram? I'm having trouble getting the guy to reply to me.

    With the new dealer I have found, he has in both 9mm and .45. Is one better or preferred over the other? I know that I will need to fill out transfer paperwork and pay the transfer fees, but am not exactly sure where I need to start. Can anyone send me some links to where I can find the forms to fill out so I can get the process going?
     
  6. ducksps

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    Regarding caliber choice in MAC 10's, that is up to you as you can buy a new upper reciever and change calibers when desired. I would start with a 9mm just for ammo cost but would likely have a 45 kit in the safe for grins ASAP.

    The paperwork to start will be a form 4 that the seller will need to start and give to you if in the same state or send to a local class 3 SOT if coming from out of state.

    You will need to figure if the gun will be purchased with a Trust, Corporation, or personally with an LEO sign-off.
     
  7. TXSRT

    TXSRT New Member

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    Thanks Ducksps. I have been reading up on this too and it seems like a corporation is the way to go. Especially since from what I've seen, there aren't any CLEO's that will sign in Houston at the moment. With a corporation you don't need this sign off correct? Would an LLC work as a corporation to put the gun under? I will do some research on the trust route, but am unfamiliar with that one and what it entails. Thanks for your help. As far as caliber, thank you for bringing up the point you did, 9mm ammo can definitely be had cheaper than .45 can. As far as getting the parts to switch to a .45, would I just need a .45 open bolt and .45 barrel? I have not seen any complete .45 upper for sale. If anyones knows a good soure, please let me know. Thanks guys
     
  8. ducksps

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    Parts for a Mac can be found at this link among other places;
    Cobray Company the Firearm Company that Made the 80's Roar

    A caliber swap would be easier if yo do the complete upper and not just bolt, barrel and magazine.

    The down side for a LLC/Corp is the yearly tax filing with the state. If you already have one of these entities it is no big deal. A trust is a one time setup and does not need to be visited again unless it is being amended.

    Folks have been able to get non silencer NFA sighn-offs in Harris County but I do not have the specifics.
     
  9. TXSRT

    TXSRT New Member

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    My father has an LLC I could put it under and I am in the process of a starting a company that will end up being an LLC as well.

    Can someone point me in the right direction for info on setting up a trust?
    Sounds like that might be an easier way to go for me.

    I have a few buddies and customers in LE around town, so maybe I can find some help to get a sign off. Too bad TT lost re-election, I knew him personally.

    Thanks again for all your help!

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    Anyone know of any sources for full auto macs in TX? That way I only have to pay one transfer fee
     
  10. SC-Texas

    SC-Texas Moderator Moderator

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    Why an M-10 instead of a M-11 9mm? Caliber?

    There are more accessories available for the M-11.

    Next question: Why the TExas MAC? I would reccomend an original M-10 or RPB overstamp gun.

    The Texas MAC had some different FCG parts. What I don't know is whether the Texas Mac uses the same bolt and upper as the other macs.

    You could check on uzitalk.com's MAC forum.

    Next thing: What is the 1stthing you should buy other than mags? The LAge Slow fire upper. It is the BETTER Mousetrap.

    ALso get the LAge Extended Safety and the thumb magazine release.

    Lage MAX-11 Slowfire upper on M-11 9mm:
    M-11 Lage Slowfire SMG Video by AtomicLabRat - MySpace Video

    Lage MAX-10 Slowfire upper on the M-10 .45acp

    YouTube - 2008-1-6 MAX-10 at the Impact Zone

    Here is my MAX-10 SFU and a MAX-11 SFU in use of hte Longview Subgun match last year:

    2008-4-26 Subgun Match at ETRPC, Longview, TX Video by AtomicLabRat - MySpace Video
     

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