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  • gll

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    Here's the thing - by using forged documents, you immediately cede the moral high-ground, and actually play into a longer-term...'adversarial' strategy (i.e. their argument is legitimized, you're now the "bad guy").

    Just refuse to play.
    Agreed...

    It was mostly a joke, except for the part about they couldn't really tell if I got the jab, cause I could still get covid either way.
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    toddnjoyce

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    Something to consider re: vax cards. Those are federal forms/records (stamped CDC at the top). Falsifying one if those things is a fed felony, punishable by 5 years in prison. When you go for the jab, you are required to submit info that will allow .gov to charge your insurer for the vax. Very easily proven if falsified.

    In this environment, the last thing I’d do is set myself up for an easy felony conviction. I’d rather find a doc that will state it’s not medically advisable to get the jab.
     

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    Something to consider re: vax cards. Those are federal forms/records (stamped CDC at the top). Falsifying one if those things is a fed felony, punishable by 5 years in prison. When you go for the jab, you are required to submit info that will allow .gov to charge your insurer for the vax. Very easily proven if falsified.

    In this environment, the last thing I’d do is set myself up for an easy felony conviction. I’d rather find a doc that will state it’s not medically advisable to get the jab.
    I didnt know this. Good info and ty for sharing
     

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    Something to consider re: vax cards. Those are federal forms/records (stamped CDC at the top). Falsifying one if those things is a fed felony, punishable by 5 years in prison. When you go for the jab, you are required to submit info that will allow .gov to charge your insurer for the vax. Very easily proven if falsified.

    In this environment, the last thing I’d do is set myself up for an easy felony conviction. I’d rather find a doc that will state it’s not medically advisable to get the jab.

    I could be wrong but I only know a few people that got the jab, but I didn’t hear anything about official documents


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    Darkpriest667

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    You see that top right part where it says CDC that makes it an official government document. And before we all get crazed over my personal information. It's not a big deal to me. It's all been stolen before multiple times and I've openly given my first and last on this forum many times. I don't hide behind some false sense of anonymity.

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    Something to consider re: vax cards. Those are federal forms/records (stamped CDC at the top). Falsifying one if those things is a fed felony, punishable by 5 years in prison. When you go for the jab, you are required to submit info that will allow .gov to charge your insurer for the vax. Very easily proven if falsified.

    In this environment, the last thing I’d do is set myself up for an easy felony conviction. I’d rather find a doc that will state it’s not medically advisable to get the jab.
    I agree. However, I do find it interesting that most of us are still playing by their rules.
     
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    CDC, should I get the vaccine if I already had Covid?

    CDC: “Yes, you should get the vaccine regardless of whether you already had COVID-19. That’s because experts do not yet know how long you are protected from getting sick again after recovering from COVID-19.”

    Oh, okay, we don’t know how long natural immunity lasts. Got it. So, how long does vaccine-induced immunity last?

    CDC: “There is still a lot we are learning about COVID-19 pokes and CDC is constantly reviewing evidence and updating guidance. We don’t know how long protection lasts for those who are vaccinated.”

    Okay … but wait a second. I thought you said the reason I need the vaccine was because we don’t know how long my natural immunity lasts, but it seems like you’re saying we ALSO don’t know how long vaccine immunity lasts either. So, how exactly is vaccine immunity better than my natural immunity?

    CDC: …

    Uh … alright. But, haven’t there been a bunch of studies suggesting that natural immunity could last for years or decades?

    CDC: Yes.

    NEWYORKTIMES: “Years, maybe even decades, according to a new study.”

    Ah. So natural immunity might last longer than poke immunity?

    CDC: Possibly. You never know.

    Okay. If I get the vaccine, does that mean I won’t get sick?

    BRITAIN: Nope. We are just now entering a seasonal spike and about half of our infections and hospital admissions are vaccinated people.

    CDC, is this true? Are there a lot of people in the U.S. catching Covid after getting the vaccine?

    CDC: We stopped tracking breakthrough cases. We accept voluntary reports of breakthroughs but aren’t out there looking for them.

    Does that mean that if someone comes in the hospital with Covid, you don’t track them because they’ve been vaccinated? You only track the UN-vaccinated Covid cases?

    CDC: That’s right.

    Oh, okay. Hmm. Well, if I can still get sick after I get the vaccine, how is it helping me?

    CDC: We never said you wouldn’t get sick. We said it would reduce your chances of serious illness or death.

    Oh, sorry. Alright, exactly how much does it reduce my chance of serious illness or death.

    CDC: We don’t know “exactly.”

    Oh. Then what’s your best estimate for how much risk reduction there is?

    CDC: We don’t know, okay? Next question.

    Um, if I’m healthy and don’t want the vaccine, is there any reason I should get it?

    CDC: Yes, for the collective.

    How does the collective benefit from me getting poked?

    CDC: Because you could spread the virus to someone else who might get sick and die.

    an a vaccinated person spread the virus to someone else?

    CDC: Yes.

    So if I get vaccinated, I could still spread the virus to someone else?

    CDC: Yes.

    But I thought you just said, the REASON I should get vaccinated was to prevent me spreading the virus? How does that make sense if I can still catch Covid and spread it after getting the vaccine?

    CDC: Never mind that. The other thing is, if you stay unvaccinated, there’s a chance the virus could possibly mutate into a strain that escapes the vaccines protection, putting all vaccinated people at risk.

    So the vaccine stops the virus from mutating?

    CDC: No.

    So it can still mutate in vaccinated people?

    CDC: Yes.

    This seems confusing. If the vaccine doesn’t stop mutations, and it doesn’t stop infections, then how does me getting vaccinated help prevent a more deadly strain from evolving to escape the vaccine?

    CDC: You aren’t listening, okay? The bottom line is: as long as you are unvaccinated, you pose a threat to poked people.

    But what KIND of threat??

    CDC: The threat that they could get a serious case of Covid and possibly die.

    My brain hurts. Didn’t you JUST say that the vaccine doesn’t keep people from catching Covid, but prevents a serious case or dying? Now it seems like you’re saying vaccinated people can still easily die from Covid even after they got the vaccine just by running into an unvaccinated person! Which is it??

    CDC: That’s it, we’re hanging up now.

    Wait! I just want to make sure I understand all this. So, even if I ALREADY had Covid, I should STILL get vaccinated, because we don’t know how long natural immunity lasts, and we also don’t know how long vaccine immunity lasts. And I should get the vaccine to keep a vaccinated person from catching Covid from me, but even if I get the vaccine, I can give it to the vaccinated person anyways. And, the other vaccinated person can still easily catch a serious case of Covid from me and die. Do I have all that right?



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    CDC, should I get the vaccine if I already had Covid?

    CDC: “Yes, you should get the vaccine regardless of whether you already had COVID-19. That’s because experts do not yet know how long you are protected from getting sick again after recovering from COVID-19.”

    Oh, okay, we don’t know how long natural immunity lasts. Got it. So, how long does vaccine-induced immunity last?

    CDC: “There is still a lot we are learning about COVID-19 pokes and CDC is constantly reviewing evidence and updating guidance. We don’t know how long protection lasts for those who are vaccinated.”

    Okay … but wait a second. I thought you said the reason I need the vaccine was because we don’t know how long my natural immunity lasts, but it seems like you’re saying we ALSO don’t know how long vaccine immunity lasts either. So, how exactly is vaccine immunity better than my natural immunity?

    CDC: …

    Uh … alright. But, haven’t there been a bunch of studies suggesting that natural immunity could last for years or decades?

    CDC: Yes.

    NEWYORKTIMES: “Years, maybe even decades, according to a new study.”

    Ah. So natural immunity might last longer than poke immunity?

    CDC: Possibly. You never know.

    Okay. If I get the vaccine, does that mean I won’t get sick?

    BRITAIN: Nope. We are just now entering a seasonal spike and about half of our infections and hospital admissions are vaccinated people.

    CDC, is this true? Are there a lot of people in the U.S. catching Covid after getting the vaccine?

    CDC: We stopped tracking breakthrough cases. We accept voluntary reports of breakthroughs but aren’t out there looking for them.

    Does that mean that if someone comes in the hospital with Covid, you don’t track them because they’ve been vaccinated? You only track the UN-vaccinated Covid cases?

    CDC: That’s right.

    Oh, okay. Hmm. Well, if I can still get sick after I get the vaccine, how is it helping me?

    CDC: We never said you wouldn’t get sick. We said it would reduce your chances of serious illness or death.

    Oh, sorry. Alright, exactly how much does it reduce my chance of serious illness or death.

    CDC: We don’t know “exactly.”

    Oh. Then what’s your best estimate for how much risk reduction there is?

    CDC: We don’t know, okay? Next question.

    Um, if I’m healthy and don’t want the vaccine, is there any reason I should get it?

    CDC: Yes, for the collective.

    How does the collective benefit from me getting poked?

    CDC: Because you could spread the virus to someone else who might get sick and die.

    an a vaccinated person spread the virus to someone else?

    CDC: Yes.

    So if I get vaccinated, I could still spread the virus to someone else?

    CDC: Yes.

    But I thought you just said, the REASON I should get vaccinated was to prevent me spreading the virus? How does that make sense if I can still catch Covid and spread it after getting the vaccine?

    CDC: Never mind that. The other thing is, if you stay unvaccinated, there’s a chance the virus could possibly mutate into a strain that escapes the vaccines protection, putting all vaccinated people at risk.

    So the vaccine stops the virus from mutating?

    CDC: No.

    So it can still mutate in vaccinated people?

    CDC: Yes.

    This seems confusing. If the vaccine doesn’t stop mutations, and it doesn’t stop infections, then how does me getting vaccinated help prevent a more deadly strain from evolving to escape the vaccine?

    CDC: You aren’t listening, okay? The bottom line is: as long as you are unvaccinated, you pose a threat to poked people.

    But what KIND of threat??

    CDC: The threat that they could get a serious case of Covid and possibly die.

    My brain hurts. Didn’t you JUST say that the vaccine doesn’t keep people from catching Covid, but prevents a serious case or dying? Now it seems like you’re saying vaccinated people can still easily die from Covid even after they got the vaccine just by running into an unvaccinated person! Which is it??

    CDC: That’s it, we’re hanging up now.

    Wait! I just want to make sure I understand all this. So, even if I ALREADY had Covid, I should STILL get vaccinated, because we don’t know how long natural immunity lasts, and we also don’t know how long vaccine immunity lasts. And I should get the vaccine to keep a vaccinated person from catching Covid from me, but even if I get the vaccine, I can give it to the vaccinated person anyways. And, the other vaccinated person can still easily catch a serious case of Covid from me and die. Do I have all that right?



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    Dammit! I just shamelessly stole that! Dam ninjas!
     

    WT_Foxtrot

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    Both my parents, despite being relatively healthy for their age, got the jab. I tried to talk them out of it, but they were scared to death and totally bought in to the fear. And in a sense......I get it, they're elderly and one of them has some preexisting conditions.

    Fast forward a few months and both have had pneumonia.......twice. Including both right now yet again. Been nothing but health issues ever since that were not an issue pre the jab. As it stands, I think one or maybe both might not make it through the summer. Just IMO, but it's not a coincidence. Just not.
     

    LaborLawPaul

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    Both my parents, despite being relatively healthy for their age, got the jab. I tried to talk them out of it, but they were scared to death and totally bought in to the fear. And in a sense......I get it, they're elderly and one of them has some preexisting conditions.

    Fast forward a few months and both have had pneumonia.......twice. Including both right now yet again. Been nothing but health issues ever since that were not an issue pre the jab. As it stands, I think one or maybe both might not make it through the summer. Just IMO, but it's not a coincidence. Just not.
    I'm sorry to hear that. This may be of some help, from Dr. Merritt. https://drleemerritt.com/uploads/Shedding and Vaccine Remorse 7-18-.pdf
     

    justashooter

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    First let me say it is your choice, but your use of these stats is misleading. You might be a member of the mainstream media.
    >Over the 3 years of flu shot data the article you base this on cited an average of 137 people died after getting the flu shot. That represents 0.00082%. That is the definition of insignificant. Not to mention it does not take into account how many people may have been impacted positively.​
    >Covid Vaccines are higher. 0.035%. Still pretty low.​
    This article makes no causal link between any of the vaccines and a single death. If a person who is morbidly obese because of their diet, got the a vaccine(flu or covid), and had an adverse reaction, and died was the cause the vaccine, or their poor lifestyle choices?​
    I support your right to make your choice. I made a choice to be vaccinated so that I can live my life without compromising my health. You do not have to agree with me but respect my choice as I respect yours.​
     

    BeatTheTunaUp

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    I made a choice to be vaccinated so that I can live my life without compromising my health. [/INDENT]

    This where a lot of us disagree. I believe the vaccine will compromise my health more than the wu flu will. I won't knock anyone for getting it. I may pity you, but I won't lamblast you for it. It's those that feel the need to force the vaccine on to people and force it on kids. It's an unvetted vaccine approved for emergency use on at risk people. Not for everyone, not for kids.
     

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    My medico advised us not to get the jab. Wifee and I are both 68. He said that he had taken it but regretted having done so. Saw on another site, (western Journal I think) about a woman that developed the blood clots and ended up having both feet and one hand amputated. Who do I see about that? Oh that's right, congress has indemnified the drug companies.
     

    gll

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    I'd rather take my chances with the virus and have my body make antibodies to the spike protein on the virus, than take my chances with the vaccine and have my body make and express spike protein on my own cell membranes so my body can make antibodies to the spike protein on my own cells. The latter sounds like a formula for autoimmune disease...
     
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