How Obama Got Elected

[DoubleActionCHL]

I've always maintained that America knows more about American Idol than the Presidential Election. Most Americans know nothing of the political process, but they're tuned into the irrelevant, pop culture gossip. Sure, we can blame our media, but the fault ultimately lies with us. We gobble this stuff up like Halloween candy, but aren't interested in the more germane facts. Our public school system doesn't teach it and, unless we seek this information out, we just don't get it. Let's face it. Most Americans really aren't interested. If it's not juicy or controversial, we're just not interested. Very, very sad.

Our American Dream has all but faded. I've always rejected the saying, "We get the government we deserve." I don't deserve this. Unfortunately, I'm not in the majority, it seems, and those who wished for it are about to get it. There's no better education than the hard slap of reality.

How Obama Got Elected

 

[carneyman]

Sad, but not surprising. The average American is an idiot. I've given up trying to explain simple concepts and ideas because they just don't get it or refuse to. I think they are all going to be in for a shock within the next 2 years.

 

[oldguy]

Lot of issues in this election, media,money, lack of a GOP candidate that could get the correct ideas across, but education is a huge part of it.
Public schools are in my opinion hurting America while we have some good teachers the system itself is far left, simply they are teaching a socialist view, America is bad, white Christan's bad, being patriotic is racist, etc.

Number of things we need to do, term limits on congress, not more then 8 years, president no more then 6, limit money that can be spent. Long term we must change or eliminate public school system provide parents opportunity to send kids to private schools. Look our system is broke from corrupt government, greedy corporations, and poor education system and simply if we want America to continue we need the above changes but certainly this election did nothing for us.

 

[Reverendbiker]

Usually, when I view a political ad for any candidate I find myself wondering "Do they really think I'm THAT stupid?" Apparently they do, and apparently we are.

 

[oldguy]

As a senior citizen raised and worked with ww2 vets I witnessed the changes in our society and its down hill slide start in the last 60's I read predictions of what is happening now and honestly I gave the America people more credit they would not allow this however once again we have a school system that have spent the past 38 years teaching social engineering and nothing else now simply we will pay.

 

[SIG_Fiend]

I think laziness is one of the very few root causes of all our problems in this country. I suffer from it sometimes. Though, it's to the point where people are so incredibly lazy that they look for nothing except convenience in EVERYTHING. Convenience in politics and understanding a complicated political process? No problem. Just watch the news and whatever is more inline with your personal emotions, well that's what's right. The annoying thing is, even as lazy as I am, I still manage to stay informed even with half @ssed research. It takes little to no effort to do a short Google search on any topic and come up with at least a handful of facts to inform people on pretty much any topic. Most of the lies spread these days could so easily be disproved if every single person would just agree to themselves that they would spend at least 15 minutes on Google with any subject that comes up and they aren't educated on. Though people can't even do that these days. We have some very basic fundamental problems in society that are being reinforced in people through various societal functions these days (public school, major media, entertainment, etc). It's really a lot like debugging networking components, or even treating an illness. People tend to focus on identifying and addressing the symptoms, but the root cause still remains so the problem never truly gets fixed. I've said it before and I'll say it again. The problems start in the HOME! Raise your damn kids, give 'em a spanking when they need it, love them and let them know they are loved, and teach them respect and self sufficiency. Unfortunately the idiots breed too, so their kids are kind of doomed from the get go, and then there is the whole snowball effect because of it.

 

[mac79912]

I think laziness is one of the very few root causes of all our problems in this country. I suffer from it sometimes. Though, it's to the point where people are so incredibly lazy that they look for nothing except convenience in EVERYTHING. Convenience in politics and understanding a complicated political process? No problem. Just watch the news and whatever is more inline with your personal emotions, well that's what's right. The annoying thing is, even as lazy as I am, I still manage to stay informed even with half @ssed research. It takes little to no effort to do a short Google search on any topic and come up with at least a handful of facts to inform people on pretty much any topic. Most of the lies spread these days could so easily be disproved if every single person would just agree to themselves that they would spend at least 15 minutes on Google with any subject that comes up and they aren't educated on. Though people can't even do that these days. We have some very basic fundamental problems in society that are being reinforced in people through various societal functions these days (public school, major media, entertainment, etc). It's really a lot like debugging networking components, or even treating an illness. People tend to focus on identifying and addressing the symptoms, but the root cause still remains so the problem never truly gets fixed. I've said it before and I'll say it again. The problems start in the HOME! Raise your damn kids, give 'em a spanking when they need it, love them and let them know they are loved, and teach them respect and self sufficiency. Unfortunately the idiots breed too, so their kids are kind of doomed from the get go, and then there is the whole snowball effect because of it.

Amen!

 

[chevydeerhunter]

I think laziness is one of the very few root causes of all our problems in this country. I suffer from it sometimes. Though, it's to the point where people are so incredibly lazy that they look for nothing except convenience in EVERYTHING. Convenience in politics and understanding a complicated political process? No problem. Just watch the news and whatever is more inline with your personal emotions, well that's what's right. The annoying thing is, even as lazy as I am, I still manage to stay informed even with half @ssed research. It takes little to no effort to do a short Google search on any topic and come up with at least a handful of facts to inform people on pretty much any topic. Most of the lies spread these days could so easily be disproved if every single person would just agree to themselves that they would spend at least 15 minutes on Google with any subject that comes up and they aren't educated on. Though people can't even do that these days. We have some very basic fundamental problems in society that are being reinforced in people through various societal functions these days (public school, major media, entertainment, etc). It's really a lot like debugging networking components, or even treating an illness. People tend to focus on identifying and addressing the symptoms, but the root cause still remains so the problem never truly gets fixed. I've said it before and I'll say it again. The problems start in the HOME! Raise your damn kids, give 'em a spanking when they need it, love them and let them know they are loved, and teach them respect and self sufficiency. Unfortunately the idiots breed too, so their kids are kind of doomed from the get go, and then there is the whole snowball effect because of it.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

Too many people take things at face value instead of taking the time to do the research.
Parents aren't being parents anymore opting to be friends instead of making the hard choices as far as their kids go. It's sad when good teachers are retiring because they've been hamstringed by school admininstrators who get an earful from parents who think the teachers are picking on their kids. It's getting uglier everyday.

 

[djspump2003]

Usually, when I view a political ad for any candidate I find myself wondering "Do they really think I'm THAT stupid?" Apparently they do, and apparently we are.

I guess "we" as a society are that stupid. If individuals would put down their People magazine and not just believe the rhetoric they hear and go to the trouble to look up someone's voting record (which is all we know about the Messiah right now) maybe they would see through a good speech writer for a change. We will get the change they wanted, that's for sure - I just hope I have enough ammo loaded up.

 

[oldguy]

Parents aren't being parents anymore opting to be friends instead of making the hard choices as far as their kids go.

I agree however remember parent of today are graduates of the public
school system which has taught the any goes life as long as it makes
you feel good. Lack of standards, morals and the idea of making yourself
happy at the expense of others has moved us to this place. It is a simple
matter of common sense, right and wrong, as a nation we have lost this.

 

[OldGringo]

I guess one of the things that has annoyed me this election cycle was knowing in my heart that McCane could not beat Obama. Governor Palin did not significantly enhance his chances IMO. The conservative party in Texas has long had the swing states cram the candidates down our throats based solely on when they held their state primary. Could another ticket led by Huckabee, Romney, or even Paul have beaten Obama???? We'll never know, but i certainly grow tired of the "Texas will be good little conservatives and support / vote what the RNC gives them". National party primaries need to be held the same day each presidental election cycle. But hey, that just me continuing to blow off steam......

 

[Shorts]

I guess one of the things that has annoyed me this election cycle was knowing in my heart that McCane could not beat Obama. Governor Palin did not significantly enhance his chances IMO. The conservative party in Texas has long had the swing states cram the candidates down our throats based solely on when they held their state primary. Could another ticket led by Huckabee, Romney, or even Paul have beaten Obama???? We'll never know, but i certainly grow tired of the "Texas will be good little conservatives and support / vote what the RNC gives them". National party primaries need to be held the same day each presidental election cycle. But hey, that just me continuing to blow off steam......

That's pretty much what I'm tired of as well. Every same election year its the same people/states that "matter" and the rest of us are red-headed step children that are expected to "behave accordingly".

 

[tallmike]

That's pretty much what I'm tired of as well. Every same election year its the same people/states that "matter" and the rest of us are red-headed step children that are expected to "behave accordingly".

Then stop proving them correct or work to get rid of the electoral college. If you live in Texas and voted republican than you did "behave accordingly"

All of this complaining about politically ignorant voters and the demise of the nation due to the general ignorance and laziness of the next generation has been going on since man first civilized.

"Our" generation is always the last of the good ones and every other voter is far less informed than we are.

 

[oldguy]

I would not try to put this in the catagory of old folks bashing young, it is
simply our education system is failing in teaching history,government,etc.

Read this article.

Report: America Is Forgetting Its History


November 24, 2008 | From theTrumpet.com

As their nation’s status in the world becomes questionable, Americans are woefully ignorant of their own history and government, repeated studies have shown. The latest of these, a new Intercollegiate Studies Institute report, found that on a 33-question test on history and political and economic institutions, 71 percent failed.

Amazingly, college graduates scored an average of 57 percent—only 13 percent higher than non-college graduates. Darryl DeMarzio, an education professor at the University of Scranton, attributed this to the lack of history being taught, and the way it is taught, in higher education. CNSNews.com reports:

“One of the purposes of a history course now is not the acquisition of historical knowledge, but it’s a vague skill like ‘thinking historically,’ or something like that,” DeMarzio said.

The culprit is that teachers are steeped in a philosophy called “constructivism.”

“That’s the idea that knowledge is not something that teachers possess and give to students or teach students,” DeMarzio told CNSNews.com. “Rather, knowledge is a process in which students construct meaning for themselves.

“So a historical question in a history class today is not, ‘Who were the major political participants of World War ii?’ But it’s ‘What do you think of World War ii?’ or ‘What might we learn from World War ii?’ Think for yourself. Construct your own knowledge, your own meaning out of this.”

Even worse, elected officials who took the survey scored five points lower than the average person. For example, 43 percent of politicians did not know what the electoral college does. And 79 percent of them didn’t know that the Bill of Rights forbids the government to establish a state religion.

New York Times columnist David Brooks partly blamed political correctness and multiculturalism in the education system. He told CNSNews.com:

It’s partly political correctness—which is that there are no great men and no great women; it’s all “social movements,” its all people, and its all oppressed people, is who you focus on—and that’s how you show your sympathy. It’s (considered) sort of elitist to look at the great and not the equal.

 

[Shorts]

Then stop proving them correct or work to get rid of the electoral college. If you live in Texas and voted republican than you did "behave accordingly"

All of this complaining about politically ignorant voters and the demise of the nation due to the general ignorance and laziness of the next generation has been going on since man first civilized.

"Our" generation is always the last of the good ones and every other voter is far less informed than we are.

Sure guy, I've only voted in three elections counting this one and I'm to blame for the system You probably assume I vote straight ticket too.


These morons answering the questions in the video, those are my generation. It isn't an age or a generation battle, at least not from me. I can't speak for you.


Edited....because I've had no sleep tonight...

 

[OldGringo]

Then stop proving them correct or work to get rid of the electoral college. If you live in Texas and voted republican than you did "behave accordingly"

Not exactly a student of civics here so could you elaborate how the outcome of all the national primaries / cacuses held on one date in which the entire group of presedential nomination seekers could be affected by the electoral college? (sorry if my wording is confusing)

Thanks,
Dub

 

[katharsis]

It'll be okay, no worries. Just have to keep sticking up for what you believe in, if you weren't happy with the election. We'll really have to wait and see, obviously not much has happened yet, and won't until the new president takes office.