How to engage a target keeping both eyes open.

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  1. Leo 6

    Leo 6 New Member

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    Can someone please coach me on the ability of engaging a target keeping both eyes open?

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  2. SIG_Fiend

    SIG_Fiend Administrator TGT Supporter Admin

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    Visually, it can tend to be a bit tricky for a lot of people. One of the things I find helps a lot, is getting used to using a "soft focus" instead of trying to maintain a traditional hard front sight focus with both eyes open. There's a lot of info in this thread about using a soft sight focus:

    http://www.texasguntalk.com/forums/...-you-need-see-your-sights-accuracy-speed.html


    Here's a good example of what that will look like:

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    Basically, you're just backing off your focus a bit so that you can simply see just enough of the sights to be able to ensure they are pretty much aligned. In some cases, especially at closer ranges, you can actually do this while focusing on the target, while still maintaining accuracy. Everyone does it a bit differently. To give you an idea of some of what's possible, I personally tend to use a soft focus out to ~15yds much of the time, at IDPA matches, etc unless the shot calls for extreme accuracy. Some more experienced shooters have actually been known to use a soft focus even out to 25yds or more. The main trick here is in relaxing your eyes, not straining them by getting tunnel vision focusing hard on the front sight, and simply seeing enough of the sights for what the shot might require. If we're talking about say shooting fairly large silhouettes like an IDPA/IPSC target and keeping it anywhere in the A/B/C zones, then you probably don't have to have a crystal clear sight picture to make your hits at most close ranges. If we're talking about something more like a head shot in the "credit card", and at 15yds or 25yds, yeah you might need to go with a hard front sight focus, maybe even close your non-dominant eye if it helps (nothing wrong with that). Basically, the point here is there are varying degrees of sight picture, entirely based on what the shot calls for.
     
  3. shortround

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    Once you determine which is the "dominant" eye, getting to "two eyed" shooting is most difficult.

    It has taken me years to overcome a left dominant eye in a right handed shooting stance.

    We automatically close one eye while trying to focus the other on the target.

    Squinting at a target with one eye closed leads to eye fatigue.

    Best to train your shooting eye to ignore the other eye.

    Eventually, I learned to open both eyes with every shot.
     
  4. rushthezeppelin

    rushthezeppelin TGT Addict

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    I personally have not managed to master it with a handgun or any other type of open sights. I suggest starting with a no mag red dot or something similar. It is much easier to train yourself to shoot those with 2 eyes and would probably be a nice intermediate step towards doing it with open sights.
     
  5. Younggun

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    I've found that over time I'm closing my left eye less. Not by effort, just kinda happening.

    But I've always been able to focus on my dominant eye without closing the other. I learned it looking through rifle scopes while deer hunting so I wouldn't get eye fatigue while waiting for the shot.
     
  6. MaddCat

    MaddCat New Member

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    Red dots and hand guns im a lot more accurate both eyes open
     
  7. grasshopperglock

    grasshopperglock Can You Dig It?

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    Pull the sights off a BB gun. If you can, pull the sights off the hand gun.

    Shoot cans till you stop missing. All ranges. Over time you'll develop instinctive shooting. Similar to shooting a shot gun.

    After you get the 'feel'. Put the sights back on.
     
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  8. Charlie

    Charlie Illiterate TGT Supporter

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    Using a long eye relief scope on a rifle helps in the transition to move to both eyes open shooting.
     
  9. sebstin

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    I've read that slightly squinting your non dominant eye helps
     
  10. rushthezeppelin

    rushthezeppelin TGT Addict

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    That is a good way to start training the ability. Doesn't take much of a squint either before it forces your brain to focus on the scope eye will still having the ability to distinguish motion with your other.
     


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