HR 6981 Legislation Introduced that would Eliminate and make Illegal Private Church Security and others.

[DoubleDuty]

Ok, so if some folks live in a border town and goes to church across a state line and they're part of the security team that'd check all the boxes you just listed, and that's IF it is indeed a requirement to travel interstate.

It would also apparently outlaw large private security firms just by going off what you stated. I work for one of the largest security companies in the US, and we have a special team made up of officers from all across the country that is deployable to reinforce security teams in disaster zones, or to take emergency contracts (typically government or healthcare / energy clients) following a disaster. Just going there by "3 or more people" and "security services unit" covers that, then throw in state lines and training (being on the team affords increased training opportunity and requires you be licensed for armed work)

This is a terrible bill and needs to die in committee. It will be used to persecute people more than stopping terrorism. More scare tactics by the left and no doubt will find support by RINOs everywhere.

Totally unconstitutional again.

 

[DocBeech]

You actually never own your home. The Bank owns it first, pay them off and then the County owns it for the rest of the days, you pay them rent to live in it.

The vote passed to remove property tax. Now the legislation just has to codify it. If they do their part, this won't be the case anymore!

 

[Renegade]

Just read through it and not once saw any mention of religion, churches, or church security teams being made illegal.

It says paramilitary which is described as: "The term ‘private paramilitary organization’ means any group of 3 or more persons associating under a command structure for the purpose of functioning in public or training to function in public as a combat, combat support, law enforcement, or security services unit."

Another thing of note is that it must involve:
“(A) travel across a State line or national border; or interstate.
Which again unless these church security teams are driving across states that would be a no issue.

ATF just redefined what engaged in the business means, even though Congress defined it.

They will have no problem redefining what a PPO is.

This is just the nose under tent. Said law will be strengthened overtime. Must be nipped in the bud.

 

[Renegade]

Until it makes some headway, I'm going to assume this is just virtue-signalling, just like hundreds of other bills that aren't intended to actually pass.

California is a hotbed of trial balloons that initially do not pass, then do pass, then are tried in other states.

 

[DocBeech]

ATF just redefined what engaged in the business means, even though Congress defined it.

They will have no problem redefining what a PPO is.

This is just the nose under tent. Said law will be strengthened overtime. Must be nipped in the bud.

This is the problem with the ATF. They make up their own rules with no oversight. They literally just pull shit out their ass the day before they want to do it. Laws need to be approved by a governing body, not someone with an agenda who can just throw darts at a board whenever they want.

 

[kbaxter60]

Until it makes some headway, I'm going to assume this is just virtue-signalling, just like hundreds of other bills that aren't intended to actually pass.

Exactly. I could find very little "news" coverage on the bill, but did see its sponsor is Maryland Dem Jamie Raskin and it has 10 dem cosponsors. In other words, it's a steaming pile of crap, put together for their dem constituencies to show how "good" they are.
Doubt that it gets anywhere.

Cosponsors​

• Andre D. Carson, D-IN 7th
• Sean Casten, D-IL 6th
• Dan Goldman, D-NY 10th
• Raul Grijalva, D-AZ 7th
• Kevin Mullin, D-CA 15th
• Eleanor Holmes Norton, D-DC
• Andrea Salinas, D-OR 6th
• Jan Schakowsky, D-IL 9th
• Mark A. Takano, D-CA 39th
• Hank Johnson Jr., D-GA 4th

 

[HD-Ghost]

At one point here in Texas, it was illegal to carry concealed in a church. Has this been repealed?

 

[Renegade]

At one point here in Texas, it was illegal to carry concealed in a church. Has this been repealed?

Yeah in 1997 it was changed to required 30.06 to be enforceable.

 

[HD-Ghost]

Thanks. I always thought that rule was unconstitutional.