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  • Antares

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    Well for those who don't remember it was about a group of Generals and others that tried to overthrow the current President. It failed but given what is happening to our country and being in May IMHO it would succeed this time with the current boob that is in office and what happened during the last election. I want Trump back in the Whitehouse right now not in 2024.
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    Sir, regardless of what we may think of Biden, and irrelevant whether we believe the election was rigged or tampered with, Biden is still the president.

    What you speak of is treason. Just what incentives are you providing for those that COULD enact such an action to commit treason? Simply put, IF they did somehow succeed at over-throwing Biden, well what about every one in succession to the presidency? Are you going to condone outright murder and assassination to get Trump back in the White House? And those that participate, would have to leave the country., or eliminated as they would be seen as liabilities.

    This sort of nonsense, makes for a good movie or a great novel, but they usually never work out in reality. Go study a few third world countries that have military coups that over-threw their current sitting leaders. It's bloody as hell. Many times even entire families are murdered because they are seen as a threat.
     

    candcallen

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    Trump is done. He needs to step aside. Ron Desantis will be the next president.

    And your wet dream is bullshit. If it succeeded America as we know it is over. Phuck, if it was even attempted shits done. I'm sure you dont comprehend the gravity of military members even discussing such a thing.

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    Antares

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    So you think if they rigged an election which is being proven and he is elected president, and who is screwing up the country royally he deserves to be president. The fact that what they did during this election, the way fake news covered it, and did not report it wasn't that treason also. Letting the illegals cross the border in mass against the will of the people is that not treason. Undoing the mid east peace agreements is that not treason. Stopping the XL pipeline and us losing our energy independence is that not treason. Turning this into a Socialist Nation is that not Treason. Devaluing our money by printing more than ever will be paid back what is that. Name one damn thing he did that wasn't against the Constitution, the laws already on the books by not enforcing them wasn't that treason also.
     

    Antares

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    Sorry got a little heated there. He did take the same oath that we took when we were in the service or work for civil service. Only difference is "I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."

    He isn't doing that.
     

    jrbfishn

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    Then there are legal ways to remove him. Per the Constitution and Law.
    Anything else is Treason. At the very least, sedition.
    Many of us agree. He is not acting per the Constitution or the best interest of the Country. But trying to forcibly remove him at this point would not give you what you think it will. In fact, I seriously doubt you would like the end result at all. Probably a lot less than what you have now.

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    Axxe55

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    I'll ask again @Antares, who would have the incentive to pull off a coup to replace Biden? Who would you suggest is capable, or the reasons to pull off such a feat?

    Just for the sake of hypothetical discussion. How far are you willing to go to oust Biden and replace him with Trump? Treason? Murder? Assassinations? Concentrations camps for the opposition? Where does your list start, and end with who is going to be replaced? Because it sure would stop with just Biden and Harris. Hmmm...Lets round up every Democrat, every Biden cabinet member, and we probably should also round up all the Supreme Court justices, along with every federal judge and prosecutor just to be on the safe side.

    Jeesh! Almost sounds like some South American, or African, or Middle East country that underwent a military coup. Or even maybe Vietnam, or Burma for that matter.

    I am pretty sure most conservatives and Trump supporters feel cheated by the election results, and like me, upset and angry, but seeing the option you suggest, leaves me feeling even more upset and frankly worried if that did happen. You are talking about opening a Pandora's Box, that once opened, would be very hard to contain, or to bring under control. You think things are bad in this country now, well visit one of those third-world countries under a military dictatorship, and let us know how great it is. I have have read enough history, to know what you envision, is dangerous, and doesn't turn out so great for the citizens of that country.
     

    2ManyGuns

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    Sir, regardless of what we may think of Biden, and irrelevant whether we believe the election was rigged or tampered with, Biden is still the president.

    What you speak of is treason. Just what incentives are you providing for those that COULD enact such an action to commit treason? Simply put, IF they did somehow succeed at over-throwing Biden, well what about every one in succession to the presidency? Are you going to condone outright murder and assassination to get Trump back in the White House? And those that participate, would have to leave the country., or eliminated as they would be seen as liabilities.

    This sort of nonsense, makes for a good movie or a great novel, but they usually never work out in reality. Go study a few third world countries that have military coups that over-threw their current sitting leaders. It's bloody as hell. Many times even entire families are murdered because they are seen as a threat.

    Isn't that why we have the 2A? To water the tree of liberty when there has been a serious breach of the contract by the government with the citizens.
     

    Hoji

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    So you think if they rigged an election which is being proven and he is elected president, and who is screwing up the country royally he deserves to be president. The fact that what they did during this election, the way fake news covered it, and did not report it wasn't that treason also. Letting the illegals cross the border in mass against the will of the people is that not treason. Undoing the mid east peace agreements is that not treason. Stopping the XL pipeline and us losing our energy independence is that not treason. Turning this into a Socialist Nation is that not Treason. Devaluing our money by printing more than ever will be paid back what is that. Name one damn thing he did that wasn't against the Constitution, the laws already on the books by not enforcing them wasn't that treason also.
    Deserve has nothing to do with it. We got the government we deserve.
    We should have been using the left’s tactics against them from day 1. ( that goes back to the late 60s)
    Taking the high road against an enemy that wants nothing more than to see you in chains or dead in a mass grave will only lead to chains, or a mass grave.

    The pedo was installed via the rules set forth in the Constitution, so he is there and that is that unless he is impeached for HC&M. Then we go with the chain of succession.

    What happened in this past election is historically un precedented in a first world country, and the Founding Fathers never even considered a Constitutional remedy for it.

    Well, not one that is spelled out in detail anyway. Federalist Papers can shed som light on the opinions for tyranny.

    Short of bloodshed, the best bet is to shine so much sunlight on the virus that is forces the states into serious reform of election laws coupled with putting a hard hickory and firehose stop to “mostly peaceful but fiery protests” the second the first rock is thrown.
     

    cycleguy2300

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    Well for those who don't remember it was about a group of Generals and others that tried to overthrow the current President. It failed but given what is happening to our country and being in May IMHO it would succeed this time with the current boob that is in office and what happened during the last election. I want Trump back in the Whitehouse right now not in 2024.
    Back a few years ago the Bush Presidential Library hosted movie nights in the summers here and there and "7 Days in May" was one they showed and I went to. It was a rather good movie, I'm sure the book is good too, but its a book and a movie, not real life.
    I suggest you watch "Valkyrie" and see how foolish any such treasonous act would be. Biden by law is our President, even if just a puppet president and any attempt to oust him from office must follow the rule of law either in 2024 or sooner by way of impeachment. I can't stand Biden and think he is a liar, a cheat and wasn't actually elected, but devolving into the lawlessness of regiscide and political executions will only make things worse.

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    As others have pointed out, where military coups occur, the result is seldom desirable. Our founders feared militaries as much as they feared governments, which is why they placed both in the hands of the people. It is the fault of the people if we have lost control of either, or both, and by whichever box of liberty they are to be taken back, it is left to the people to do the work. The best we may ever hope for from the military, is that if the people act, the military will support.
     

    cygunner

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    Axxe55 said

    "Jeesh! Almost sounds like some South American, or African, or Middle East country that underwent a military coup. Or even maybe Vietnam, or Burma for that matter."

    At this rate we will get there pretty damned quickly. Coup not wise but man oh man we got to get a handle on this Bozo in 2022. Don't let the bastards and MSM get away with this any longer.
     

    Antares

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    It is being proven in many states that Trump actually won the election I would say that a majority of the people know that. I just think the people deserve the President they voted for in overwhelming numbers not biden because the election was rigged. .
     

    oldag

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    Folks, this ain't the first election in which the liberals cheated. They have been doing this for decades.

    Trump shot himself in the foot. Otherwise, the election would not have been close enough for the cheating to have swung the election.
     

    General Zod

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    It is being proven in many states that Trump actually won the election I would say that a majority of the people know that. I just think the people deserve the President they voted for in overwhelming numbers not biden because the election was rigged. .

    And yet here we are, having to deal with it in the real world and not in some fantasy world where a military coup miraculously makes everyone happy, is accepted by our opponents, and actually hands power back to the people when all is said and done.

    Here's something for you to consider, Antares. Generals in the military are approved by Congress when they're promoted. Do you think every general and admiral is a conservative? Or a Trump supporter? And if they're not, do you think they'd meekly go along with an armed insurrection against the United States Government? You know, an actual violent insurrection rather than the ridiculous media hype over a bunch of protesters trespassing on January 6th... And then what? Martial law? Suspension of our Constitutional protections "for the greater good"? Military tribunals to punish civilians who are on the wrong side of things? Firing squads? And when civilian judges object to the military stepping outside its role as laid out in the Constitution, what then? Put them on trial too?

    What you suggest would not result in a "clean" transition of power, it would result in a civil war and the destruction of our nation, with elements of the military involved on both sides. Hell, all three sides, because I guarantee you most conservatives will not support a military takeover. And then it's almost certain our 'friends' in China would be happy to step in and 'help' one side 'restore' the republic - and don't pretend the Dems wouldn't reach out to them.

    Your fantasy scenario would leave what's left of the United States as a vassal state to the Chinese communist party, with years of bitter fighting, total destruction of our infrastruction, mass starvation...and a new status as a third-world country. You're engaging in the same kind of wishful thinking the gun control nuts do when they imagine cops going door-to-door disarming the entire country by force.
     

    Axxe55

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    It is being proven in many states that Trump actually won the election I would say that a majority of the people know that. I just think the people deserve the President they voted for in overwhelming numbers not biden because the election was rigged. .

    What proof? Provide us right here on this forum, actual concrete, undeniable proof, that would stand up in any court of law, that proves what you are saying.

    For what it's worth, I strongly suspect and believe the election was rigged and stolen, but that sir, is not proof that it was. And to be honest, I would love to see that proof to validate what I believe, and I have heard lots of talk about "proof" that the election was rigged, cheated and manipulated, but frankly, I haven't seen yet any actual evidence that shows that. Have you?

    @General Zod alluded to some things I had mentioned, and maybe in greater detail. The military trying to take over the government, and to unseat a sitting president, is wrong and dangerous regardless of the meanings and intentions behind that military coup.

    I'm also going to say this as bluntly as possible. You are either naive, or delusional when even opening such a thread about these things. I suggest you stop dwelling on such fantasies by taking a break, or seriously seek some form of professional help, because you are really starting to have a serious break with reality when you pose such scenarios just because of what you think and believe happened with the election. And I think if enough people look over your post history for the last six months, other might conclude the same thing I think, you sir are on dangerous path of an unhealthy disconnect with reality, and entertaining visions of fantasy.
     
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