I need a rifle

Discussion in 'Rifles' started by Wraith, Nov 20, 2009.

  1. Wraith

    Wraith Active Member

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    Because the only one I own is a .22 :rofl:

    So I'm looking for a good all around hunting/paper-puncher rifle. I had been looking at the Remington SPS tactical in .308 as it would be a good ordinary cartridge in a proven action. If I am to own only one bolt gun is .308 the cartridge to go with or should I step up to 7mm? Or another caliber all together? Or even another rifle? Maybe Howa or Savage? Would like to keep the initial rifle cost under $600. TIA
     


  2. Texas42

    Texas42 TGT Addict

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    You can kill anything in Texas, comfortably, with a .243 at reasonable distances.

    You don't need a 7mm remington magnum, and it hurts to shoot quite a bit (my shoulder is kind of sore right now from shooting Thursday).

    But if you want one, then get it.
     
  3. codygjohnson

    codygjohnson Eats breakfast everyday Lifetime Member

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    Initial cost under $600? Better go for the Savage. I'd get a 10FP in .308 and put the most expensive Bushnell scope on it that you still have budget for. Throw on a steel one piece picatinny base and some Warne Maxima rings. That's your best bang for the buck and it'll be one hell of a shooter for a cheap setup.
     
  4. Wraith

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    I had thought about .243 but for only one rifle I would rather err on the side of a larger caliber which is why I think the .308 will do it all.
    The 7mm? Well what if I need to shoot something at 1500 yards? :happy0001:
     
  5. Texas1911

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    At 1500 yards you will hit nothing with either bullet. You need ALOT of powder and a good BC to push a bullet out that far with any repeatable accuracy. Think .338 Lapua Magnum and bigger.

    A .308 is sonic until about 900 - 1000 yards depending on weather conditions.

    A .308 is an ideal round for many things, from target to hunting. You can load it to do whatever you want it to do.
     
  6. Wraith

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    I know that even 1000 yards is pushing it for .308 but I would only hunt the elusive paper bullseye at that range and truth be told the chances are slim to none that I would even shoot this gun past 500 yards.

    For some reason this is the rifle that trips my trigger right now,
    http://www.snipercentral.com/spstactical.htm

    But I would love to have a rifle in .338 Lapua someday.
     
  7. Dawico

    Dawico TGT Addict

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    That is a nice rifle.

    I personally am a Savage man myself. The out of the box accuracy is excellent and the Accutrigger is amazing. Savage's value is unmatched in my opinion.

    308 is an excellent caliber to start out with. It will do everything you will need it to do at ranges less than 1000 yards. Ammo and componants are readily available for any purpose you have in mind. Recoil is very tolerable also.
     
  8. Texas42

    Texas42 TGT Addict

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    I wasn't recommending a .243. I was just commenting on that any of the cartridges you get will be plenty for deer. If you don't find your deer, it isn't because of the cartridge.
     
  9. TexasRedneck

    TexasRedneck 1911 Nut Lifetime Member

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    A .243 will handle 'bout anything in Texas - but a 5-600 yard shot is gonna need a .308 or 7mm mag. I've gotten to the point that the shot is as much fun as the meat, so I tend to go for the longer distances....as a result, I've used a 7mm mag since the 80's. It just adds to the experience for me.
     
  10. ROGER4314

    ROGER4314 Been Called "Flash" Since I Was A Kid!

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    You guys confuse me. If a person wants ONE rifle and wants something to hunt and target shoot with how the heck did we get on 1000 yard shooting? Few people ever shoot at 1000. I shoot at 600 pretty often and at 1800 feet, THAT is a real stretch! It's all bullet out there and you'd better be prepared to do extensive research on the load that you use.

    So I'm going to get back down to the real world and make a recommendation. For just ONE rifle.............308.

    First, the .308 is a favorite with 1000 yard shooters. The 300 Win Mag is a favorite, too but the barrel life at about 1000 rounds really sucks. .308 does a lot better in barrel life.

    The choices of .308 bullets are extensive both for hunting and target shooting. The Sierra Match Kings are some of the best and most cost effective bullets anywhere and the track record of the 168 gr Match Kings is without equal. Everyone buys them. Everyone uses them.

    Powder choice? IMR 4895 is a standard for .308. A lot of guys think they can improve on the IMR 4895 performance but decades of experience with tens of thousands of shooters might argue with that. The .308 has been so completely researched that information can be found anywhere.

    Brass and other components or factory loads........ .308 is always available.

    Cleaning supplies are easy to find and special bore cleaners for the .30 bore are numerous. Patches, cleaners, jags, brushes can be found anywhere.

    Reputation...... How would you argue with a .308? You'd need to be a bit nuts to bash a cartridge with the reputation and extensive use of a .308. Hunting, target, warfare, tactical, the .308 does it all.

    Rifles? The Savage FP10 is a real winner and very cost effective. Mine was purchased from a SWAT member in Texas. Yup, Swat uses them, too.

    My favorite is a Remington 700VLS. It's a bit expensive but it's as good as it gets. Not into Remington or Savage? Virtually anything can be bought in .308.

    So.......that's my recommendation and why I recommend it. One rifle............ .308.

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