I see why Hollywood is afraid of firearms - Alec Baldwin kills set employee

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Let me know if this is a dupe... as I didn't read all 418 posts, but Noir's head meet hammer on Balwin's stupidity...
He shot someone DEAD, BECAUSE he is anti-gun (and STAYS firearm safety-ignorant):

I'd be willing to bet a good amount of $$$ that AB knows full well what common firearms safety rules are, as well as standard movie industry safety protocols, and his arrogant ass chooses to ignore them and do just as he pleases!!!


I highly doubt he did this because of his feelings about guns. Pretty sure he would rather have his movie make money.

Oh, I think this movie is a sure bet to draw crowds and bring in money due to morbid interest... but will be vastly offset by the amounts awarded in the lawsuits to come.


Umm...okay. Care to back that up with some factual information?

When a member tends towards hyperbolic statements, I have found it does no good to engage them in a discussion of "factual information".


I never said "intentionally", I implied "ignorance-caused" because of political-ideology pressed him essentially "to not to learn..." BASIC GUN RULES outside of his sphere of influence, when used, possibly daily, as part of his job-function...

Again, I think AB knows full well about safety rules and safe gun handling and thinks those don't apply to him nor to his production sites.


Well, since we're off-topic.
I had a girlfriend about a decade ago that trimmed her pubes into what she called a "landing strip".
To this day, every time I mow the grass and get down to that last thin strip of grass, I fondly think of
her...

In elk camp one year, now infested with daughters/wives/GFs/grandkids/etc, my buddy's daughter said she had to go back to the trailer to shave her pubes because of sweaty parts and stink when out hunting.... not exactly the thing I wanted to hear from my buddy's daughter!!!


that’s a mirror image, renegade (wrong arm). here are more recent pics, that raven is her left arm tattoo.


Rolly polly lil thing. And stayin classy!!! LOL
 
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Oh, I think this movie is a sure bet to draw crowds and bring in money due to morbid interest... but will be vastly offset by the amounts awarded in the lawsuits to come.
I’m unsure how it will play out. Like you say morbid interest or less tickets and support from the left because he killed someone with a old west weapon of war.
 

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I’m unsure how it will play out. Like you say morbid interest or less tickets and support from the left because he killed someone with a old west weapon of war.

I believe that the left has more morbid interest than any other group with the exception of stay at home soap opera watchers. And that AB will still be seen as a "victim" in this, which won't hold lefties back from supporting him and his movies.
 

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From the daily mail article linked above (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...win-killed-cinematographer-pictured-home.html)

Zak Knight, a pyrotechnic and special effects engineer who is a member of Local 44, told DailyMail.com on Friday that Hutchins' death was caused by a 'cascade of failures' by multiple people: 'There should have never been live rounds on a movie set, that's number one. Number two is every single person on a movie set has a right to inspect a weapon before it's fired. And number three is, there is no reason to ever put a person in front of a weapon that's firing.

Seems pretty damn reasonable, doesnt' it? Too bad that practice was not followed!

Sources added that assistant director Halls, who handed the gun to Baldwin and told him it was safe, should have checked the weapon.

'He's supposed to be our last line of defense and he failed us,' one of the sources on set said. 'He's the last person that's supposed to look at that firearm.'

Reed failed, Halls failed, so did Baldwin - charge all three

'That should be automatic grounds for termination on a union film set, you should be gone. The first time that gun went off without telling anybody, that whole department should have been replaced, immediately. Clearly production thought better of it, decided to roll the dice and pay the ultimate price.'

Seems reasonable - too bad that didn't happen!

A Santa Fe County Sheriff Department spokesman said: 'The investigation remains active and open. Witnesses continue to be interviewed and evidence collected.'

In addition to the criminal probe, New Mexico's Occupational Health and Safety Bureau is investigating Hutchins' death, and could impose civil penalties even if no charges are brought in the case.

'Our state OSHA program is investigating this,' Rebecca Roose, deputy cabinet secretary of the New Mexico Environment Department,' told Deadline.

'The state takes all workplace safety issues very seriously and will work diligently through our investigation of this tragic fatality.'

I'll bet in lieu of charges against Baldwin, they use OSHA to fine the shit out of him. Hell, his lawyers might already be working on negotiating just that.
 

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Its hard for my brain to reconcile that these are the same girl. THe only thing I can think - the article above said she did 3 years in college - I wonder if it didn't just melt her damn brain or let more of the crazy out.
 

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No, not this time.

I know it's out of character to TGT but I've come to the conclusion that this thread is discussing something sufficiently important and of sufficiently broad interest that it should stay on topic. I know that's a radical viewpoint but I'm sticking by it.

So, I'm in the process of deleting a whole bunch of posts. If your post is gone, that's why. You won't get a notification. It's no reflection on you or what you posted; it's just me taking a different approach to this thread, given that it will probably be a very long-lived reference source for us. This incident is not going away from our consciousness any time soon. If it does, we'll be returning to it every time a new court case gets filed or has some action taken on it. IOW, this thread will be popping up, over and over, for years.

The only way to keep it useful is to keep it clean and on-topic.

Yeah, radical. I know. To anyone offended, I apologize for this deviation from standard operating procedures.
 

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No, not this time.

I know it's out of character to TGT but I've come to the conclusion that this thread is discussing something sufficiently important and of sufficiently broad interest that it should stay on topic. I know that's a radical viewpoint but I'm sticking by it.

So, I'm in the process of deleting a whole bunch of posts. If your post is gone, that's why. You won't get a notification. It's no reflection on you or what you posted; it's just me taking a different approach to this thread, given that it will probably be a very long-lived reference source for us. This incident is not going away from our consciousness any time soon. If it does, we'll be returning to it every time a new court case gets filed or has some action taken on it. IOW, this thread will be popping up, over and over, for years.

The only way to keep it useful is to keep it clean and on-topic.

Yeah, radical. I know. To anyone offended, I apologize for this deviation from standard operating procedures.

Just doing your job, and this is reasonable. Too bad the off-topic posts can't be broken off into their own thing, but deleting is way easier and faster I"m sure.
 
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