illegal search and seizure question

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  1. hkusp1

    hkusp1 TGT Addict TGT Supporter

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    i was just a t a buddies house picking up some ammo and showing him my new ar 15 and he asked me why i had bought it so i told him i wanted to get one now in case the "assault weapons" ban and i use that term loosely were to pass and go in effect and i had made a remark that ounce i bought my ar 15 they couldnt just take it away from me or any other gun for that matter for no reason and he told me that under this new ban they could just come into my home and take it for no reason other than it being on the ban list. is this true could they really do this???

    p.s. all my guns are owned legally and are registered
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  2. JKTex

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    Punctuation is your friend. And make reading sooooo much easier on those reading. :happy0001:

    Did he have his foil hat on? Did you ask him about the AWB from the first time and how many guns they went out and collected?

    No, they did not go looking for them. I'm confident, they won't come looking for them. Have you read it as it's written now? It's posted all over the place.
     
  3. Texas1911

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    That's just hearsay really. There hasn't been much momentum for the AWB to be reinstated, and honestly it's hard to say if it will include a grandfather clause for those guns already in ownership; the first one did hence the term "Pre-Ban".

    As far as them kicking down doors and taking your AR15. It's not going to happen any time soon, and honestly I truly doubt it would ever happen as it's far too high profile.

    As far as the illegal search and seizure aspect, if it's deemed an illegal firearm and it's in your possession then the police can establish probable cause through sales records (4473s) should they be utilized for identification purposes. At that point they can get a warrant and it won't be an illegal search, nor an illegal seizure.

    I'm sure there will be some chest beating and saber rattling in this thread about the Government coming for your guns, but honestly, you have only to look at the previous AWB to understand how things will play out should Washington impose another AWB. It's against the principle of the 2nd Amendment and completely biased upon emotional hogwash, but honestly until the gun community solves alot of issues, it's not something we are going to be able to stop.
     
  4. Texas1911

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    There's no need for making inflammatory comments.
     
  5. JKTex

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    I don't see it as inflammatory but a friendly nudge to not "text type" with next to no punctuation which does make it hard to read. I thought something along those lines was even in the rules; maybe not exactly but the same result. Making posts easy to read.

    Although, I did typo as it should have said, "And it makes reading so much easier......". Maybe that made it come across differently?
     
  6. txinvestigator

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    No. The ban list is a Ban from sale.

    Not if you live in Texas
     
  7. Texas42

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    I agree with you guys, but I never though the whitehouse would be the new Board of directors of the car industry. I may have to go and make a funny hat, but I truly have no idea what the current administration thinks they can get away with. They would probably need another "crisis," like Katrina but nation wide to really try and take people's guns away.

    I agree that banning one of the most popular rifles today would cause an outrage, but so will a carbon trading tax (once people realize what that is) and forcing Americans to buy the cars that THEY want us to buy. I have very little doubt that the adminstration will try and institute the last two.

    I'm just saying while I don't think it will happen, I'm not as sure as I used to be.
     
  8. DCortez

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    /agree Texas42

    Who would have ever thought potus would tell the ceo of GM to quit? Who ever thought the government would take over GM's warranty work? Who would have ever thought stun guns would be treated like guns (HB1164)?
     
  9. DrBart2

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    "They would probably need another "crisis," like Katrina but nation wide to really try and take people's guns away."

    I believe in their minds we have another crisis now. It is called the violence in Mexico. From the comments of Hillary Clinton and our Attorney General, it is their belief (or what they want the general public to believe) that all the problems in Mexico are due to American citizens ability to easily purchase and own firearms. I don't think the American public will be duped by this, and I don't believe the anti-gun types are dumb enough to really think that they can forcibly take guns from the millions of gun owners here in the US.
    I believe they are searching for ways to get our guns and will continue to test different ideas. We just have to stay alert and make sure they don't sneak some kind of legislation in the back door that will restrict our rights.
     
  10. whit128

    whit128 Member

    The government just march in and take your guns, no way and if you don't believe me just ask David Koresh.
     

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