There is a real divide between us. Some are on the - lets bail from the union and take our chances and the other side is you don't need to, excurcise your rights and vote, be active, ect... So it pretty apparent that we all are in agreement on what has precipitated this divide; we are all unhappy with the direction OUR nation has taken. There are four forums I post on and several I read. This discussion is taking place all over the internet. Not just gun forums but others. It’s clear that our perception of the situation is based on where and how we live, how the current political, economical situation is affecting our daily lives, not on the facts of would secession be a real alternative for my state????? Lets take Montana; how could Montana secede? They are land locked, have little agriculture, produce no substantial amounts of energy, no major industry to trade with, ect... Same thing with many states. Secession is not a real option, how would they survive long enough to become a free stand alone nation? Texas although has many more advantages over most any other states and with in short organized order could become a stand alone entity; inland port, agriculture, natural resources (oil & gas) cattle and on and on. Still this is not a viable option considering…………. We The People have the ability to effect change but divided we have to many voices, not ONE single voice. We can't be heard over each other bickering. We need a rallying of our cause, under one banner, one voice, united. On another forum the statement was made that we can make change like the others. I questioned who these other were???? Were they the protected groups such and the NAACP, Gays, Hispanic, ect... The reply was YES! Well look how they did it. ONE voice, united, determined to change people’s perceptions and values towards those groups. These are minorities!!! - Yet they have more freedom and rights than you or I. Why?? One voice, united. The truth of the matter is until we put our petty differences away and stand together united as one voice, we have already lost. I don’t know what mechanism we could use to become united, one voice, because we have yet to learn to put our pride and personal feeling aside and unite under one banner whether that be this political party or that party. WE THE PEOPLE CAN EFFECT CHANGE once we are willing to do as our fore fathers did and decide we can work, united, together, indifferent to OUR INDIVIDUAL needs and put the needs of our countrymen first. . Do you see the merit - power in that last sentence??? Our fore fathers would! They were a small group that by the people united as one voice; they told the King of England to piss off! They were united BY the people and for the people thus the preamble “WE THE PEOPLE:!!!!. They put aside a lot of their own differences and ambitions to effect change for the people and by the people. We can too; we just need to figure out that mechanism by which to do it and agree to stand together regardless of our personal differences, as one voice united as one people. To effect change for all people that share our common values, beliefs, moral and ethics as our fore fathers did. This is not just a state issue but a national issue. Even if Texas were to successfully secede, do we not owe our fellow countrymen the chance to become free men once again? “We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity…” POWERFUL WORDS THERE!!!! Our goal is not secession but to find that voice, that mechanism that binds our voice, to be heard and recognized and give meaning to the words of our founders – WE THE PEOPLE” Y’all soak that up before you come hunting my head. Then read it once more! I think if you do, you will find merit in a lot of what I have said. And if you don’t find merit, then maybe you’re part of the problem and not part of the solution? MadMo a fellow Texan and Countryman!