I'm pretty fed up with semi-autos. Which pump gun to buy for HD?
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Breakingcontact: Before you decide, let me come up to Austin some time and have you shoot my SLP.
All shotguns suck, unless you're shooting at stuff that's moving fast through the air.
I've been running them for about as long. You give a lot up in speed when you pick up a pump. I actually used to be one of those, "it's a shotgun, more isn't more, and semi auto isn't really any faster than someone that's good with a pump." Yeah, then I found out that was bullshit. There is a huge difference in quality among shotguns and it shows up at the range, and a good semi is a lot better than even a great pump.
My FN SLP is so smooth shooting, I had trouble believing it was a shotgun at first...
The action is disgustingly rough and gritty. The trigger guard is cheap plastic, and I guarantee if I owned one I'd have broken at least that by now, and the safety button is stiff and way too far away to reach without shifting your hand around.
Pump shotguns don't suck, some people just suck at running them
All shotguns suck, unless you're shooting at stuff that's moving fast through the air.
I've been running them for about as long. You give a lot up in speed when you pick up a pump. I actually used to be one of those, "it's a shotgun, more isn't more, and semi auto isn't really any faster than someone that's good with a pump." Yeah, then I found out that was bullshit. There is a huge difference in quality among shotguns and it shows up at the range, and a good semi is a lot better than even a great pump.
My FN SLP is so smooth shooting, I had trouble believing it was a shotgun at first...
The action is disgustingly rough and gritty. The trigger guard is cheap plastic, and I guarantee if I owned one I'd have broken at least that by now, and the safety button is stiff and way too far away to reach without shifting your hand around.
If you are poor a Maverick is a good shotgun.
If you can afford a Mossberg 500, it is a good shotgun.
If you can afford a Remington Express, then a Wingmaster is a better shotgun and a Browning BPS is an even better shotgun for more or less the same money.
You can see where this is going.
If you can afford a Mossberg 500, it is a good shotgun.
If you can afford a Remington Express, then a Wingmaster is a better shotgun and a Browning BPS is an even better shotgun for more or less the same money.
You can see where this is going.
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I should check out Browning as well. I guess thats what im getting at. Im only familiar with Mossberg pumps and semis and Remington 870s. I did have a Wingmaster years ago. Was some sort of a trap or turkey gun? Full choke. High comb on sock and 32 or 33" barrel. Beautiful gun.
M Sage. I definitely appreciate the offer. I know you are a big fan of that SLP. It comes with two pistons? Which one(s) do you use and for what?
M Sage. I definitely appreciate the offer. I know you are a big fan of that SLP. It comes with two pistons? Which one(s) do you use and for what?
I've owned them all... and settled on the Benelli Nova as the best pump gun for me. I've got a Tactical with rifle sights, which worked well enough for me to take 1st in the Vietnam Light division at the TX Multigun Championship this year. I've also got a camo vent-rib hunting model that can handle all of the non-tactical and non-competition chores.
However, I will never give up my 30 year old 870. Something about parkerized steel and walnut that lets you know it has a soul.
However, I will never give up my 30 year old 870. Something about parkerized steel and walnut that lets you know it has a soul.
I think the 870 tactical handles a little better in tight areas and feels more robust, just feels right. Both shoot about the same. But with the 590 you definitely feel like you are ready for a battle. 870 for home, 590 for riot/property defense. 500 mariner everywhere else (boat, truck), and is the lightest of the three. I don't like the mossberg safety position with a pistol grip.
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This is for HD. Only hunting id do with it would be possibly hogs but probably not even that.
As far as stock. At some point id like to monkey around with a birdshead grip but that would be on a secondary shotgun. For my main one i will go with either a traditional stock or a pistol grip/buttstock setup (is there a better name?) If i go Mossberg will be regular stock for sure.
I will have a light on it perhaps a side saddle and thats about it.
The only pump guns I've seen with trouble were Mossbergs. I can't believe you won't consider an 870, it's the best inexpensive gun there is available. I don't know what you use the gun for but I have an old 1100 gun that is almost 100% reliable. I also have an old 870 that's been shot thousands of times(Trap Gun). Save your money, don't play with the Mooys.
Not really. I've owned both and the 870 is a better shotgun.
you must have got a bad one. I have never had a problem with mine
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Ive had an 870 and i 590. I shouldnt have said in post one no 870s.
What i dont like most about the 870 is...safety location although it does make a pistol/buttstock combo an option. I dont like how the ejector or is hard to replace. Mostly i dont like how the feed gate (?) stays down instead of out of the way like a Mossberg.
Other than that i think and 870 is a good gun.
What i dont like most about the 870 is...safety location although it does make a pistol/buttstock combo an option. I dont like how the ejector or is hard to replace. Mostly i dont like how the feed gate (?) stays down instead of out of the way like a Mossberg.
Other than that i think and 870 is a good gun.
Put a bigger safety button in it. Easy.
The feed gate stays down. So...? Every autoloader I've seen does the same. Doesn't keep people from being able to load the guns insanely fast. It pushes right out of the way with no effort at all.
breakingcontact
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I dont have a ton of experience with shotguns. Perhaps im following the wrong youtubers?
How likely is an 870 ejector to fail? The 590 is easy to replace. Regarding safety position i suppose a big safety could improve the 870. Finally the safety would let me run a Mesa Tactical recoil reducing stock which does interest me.
Are 1100/1187s real reliable? They dont seem as popular as they once were.
