In Texas, I would not think you are likely to have charges filed against you for trying to stop a murderer.In that scenario, he has no line of sight on me and I can't see him either. There are rows and aisles of merchandise separating us. To him, I'm not even there. Most shooters will shoot towards the closest group of people they see, so his attention will most likely be focused on the front row cash registers and the people in line to pay for their groceries, or anyone else near him. I'm not going to run out, get a line of sight, and try to shoot this guy from 300+ feet with a compact 9mm. That's why I specified that I'd move from cover to cover around him until I was close enough for an effective shot. But that moving part is where my question comes from. I was in a safe position to start with, and I could've tried to remain hidden. Would the act of me moving clear across the store to "Rambo" him be seen as my looking for a fight since I was in a safe area to start with?
The link you provided did clear some things up. Thanks for posting that.
To answer your questions, no, I've never been under fire or had to react under fire, thank God. I don't see that as a disqualifier to act at all though. Of course things will be insanely tense in that moment and I may not react the way I think I will. That's where training comes in.
We remember gunkid and gecko45. Well I do anyway, and your post reminded me of them.
OP has said repeatedly he would close the distance.Clearly the best advice so far. Your not obligated to retreat. Do you really want to take on a guy with a rifle at a long distance with a carry pistol?
That's a more elaborate explanation of what I said in the same post you quoted, and you're exactly right. Most people would probably just freeze up and stand there, or cower in a corner. I hope to God that that won't be me in the moment. Well hell, I hope to God I never encounter a shooter.
I don’t believe anyone was trying to insult you so much as trying to get you to take a step back, think about things, and maybe change some of your strategies to something a little more realistic.I'm not gonna lie, feeling pretty insulted there now that I know who these two are. But fair enough.
I don’t believe anyone was trying to insult you so much as trying to get you to take a step back, think about things, and maybe change some of your strategies to something a little more realistic.
This is a very diverse group on this forum, with lots of military and law enforcement experience scattered throughout. Most of us have passed the age of thinking we’re Rambo or Superman, and have gained a degree of wisdom that comes with that age. We’ve also garnered enough trigger time to know what’s realistic and what is most likely a losing situation.
OP, you will find that a significant portion of the people on this board are of the "I look out for me and mine, to heck with anyone else" variety.
We remember gunkid and gecko45. Well I do anyway, and your post reminded me of them.
It would seem so. I'd want to escape from the store too, but I dunno if I could live with myself knowing I left the store leaving dozens of people to die and dozens more to get hurt despite the fact that I'm armed and probably one of the only people there that could've done something about it.
Who takes multiple shots from 338 lapua anyway? LOL
That being said, if you hit a kid or an innocent bystander you're gonna pay for it. You're responsible for every round that leaves your barrel. Legally, financially, and morally.
All the training in the world doesn’t do much to prepare you for the first time it’s for real.You can be the world’s most enlightened pistolero, but until you’re in a position to take a life in combat or a gunfight, you’ll never know how you’ll react when it’s time to pull the trigger to take another’s life.