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  1. oldag

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    Sanders fails to mention that Sweden has walked back most of its socialist ways, as it was ruining the country.
     


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    You should have ROT13'd it. :)
     
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  3. gshayd

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    Sweden is not socialist. They have a nice social welfare system. If I remember right the Govt of Sweden does even have a mandated minimum wage. The wage is set by a collective agreement between the workers and the company annually. The Nordic countries believe in free trade. It is not a socialist planned economy. This is the Nordic Myth of Socialism set forth by Bernie and others.
     
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  4. WT_Foxtrot

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    Not sure what you call a country with a 60+% federal tax rate, though, if not socialist.

    But whatever the verbiage, that's what Bernie and others want here....to basically take most of what we all earn and decide what we need and how much and spend it themselves accordingly. Complete and total power over the former middle class and the workforce in general.
     
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  6. gshayd

    gshayd Ugliest house on the block.

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    Tax rate and social welfare system aside its not a socialist country. At one time ours was higher than 60% and we were not a socialist country.
     
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  7. gshayd

    gshayd Ugliest house on the block.

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    When the country controls the means of production, they get the money and supposedly split it amongst the people. However, from history, we know that socialism in countries has still resulted in an elite class that is pretty much exempt from the rules and the rest of the people who are stuck like chuck in the working class. That would be a wake-up call here. The government may even tell you-you are not going to college to get that degree in underwater basket weaving. They might even get a wake up call on abortion under a socialist government.
     
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  8. toddnjoyce

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    Tax rates don’t define an economic model. Even at its worst, Sweden (and other Nordic countries) were at worst a hybrid economy.

    Remember, socialism is a transitory model, with the defining characteristic being the transition to communism.
     
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  9. WT_Foxtrot

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    But our marginal rate.....even for the highest of the highest earners.....was never near that. Sweden is 61% off the top for everyone. Make 100K, take home 40K

    Pretty much kill the swap and shop and the good deal gun thread here on TGT.
     
  10. WT_Foxtrot

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    Disagree......when a government takes over half your earnings for the greater good of their society, it's socialism. And not half of some rich guy, but half of the regular Joe.
     


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