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  • Lost Spurs

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    Did I miss something? I thought the USSR ended in the early 90's.
    I think you are right. I had seen a video from some KGB soviet defector that talked about America's collaps ending in Balkanization.

    My main reason to pull in the failed state was how the eastern block nations built back up.

    Seriously, how long would a full scale civil war last here. Most people would start starving by day 3 and be heading to camps. Heck, a good half probably couldn't run a mile if there life required it.

    I have read a bunch about the 1770's and really the years leading up to and after. Both here and abroad. As best I can tell, 1776 (really 1775) is a non starter here.

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    cycleguy2300

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    Already in a civil war. Doesn't require the military to be patrolling the streets - we have factions fighting each other all over. ANTIFA vs Proud Boys, BLM vs the police / citizens, ANTIFA vs police. Cities across the country have had numerous riots, parts of said cities have burned. Lots of lives lost. Businesses destroyed. People injured. Lives ruined. They are vying for political control. The factions have political backers - the lefty radicals support BLM and Antifa - while the RINOS/NeoCons/Conservatives generally back police and give lip service to the people. Libertarians aka Lolberts sit back, scream about the "atrocities" from both sides, and don't really go anywhere because they are a shit-show in their own right.

    We don't have sides going at one another with tanks and automatic weapons - yet. We do see one side especially like incindiary devices/molotovs, lasers employed to cause blindness, etc. The other side employs "chemical weapons" aka tear gas (except where their lefty masters forbade it) and impact weapons mostly. There have been live rounds exchanged, multiple times, from both sides.

    One side has set up numerous "occupied zones" and taken over government buildings, even with the support of certain government agents and officers. Same side has extorted people for resources, murdered innocents, and engaged in other unspeakable acts.

    We've been in a hot civil war for over a year. The power players behind the scenes like it. It will ultimately lead to them having more authoritarian control, or the downfall of the Republic and balkanization. No more American super power. There's a slim chance a second American Revolution would happen and patriots would regain control and right the wrongs, execute the traitors, and life could, maybe in a generation, get back to "normal" - but that doesn't seem to be the most likely outcome.
    I agree with 99% but would describe the war not as a Hot war, but either a cold or warm war, the kind where where one side is doing border incursions and little raids, but both sides don't want a hot war enough to mostly ignore it.

    Having seen with my own eyes what antifa will do to get their way it is scary. They arent the little twats many think they are. Many are ex-mil, many have guns and many are true believers and loudly and openly call for the violent overthrow of our Republic and the implementation of a Maoist style government (yelled through mega phones, on repeat for hours May, 1 2019...)

    I think they learned a lot this last year or so on how to organize and mobilize while avoiding as much telegraphing of their plans, and they learned many of the tactics of the police and modified their tactics innresponce and copied some things like the use of bicycles as offensive and defensive weapons.

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    easy rider

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    I agree with 99% but would describe the war not as a Hot war, but either a cold or warm war, the kind where where one side is doing border incursions and little raids, but both sides don't want a hot war enough to mostly ignore it.

    Having seen with my own eyes what antifa will do to get their way it is scary. They arent the little twats many think they are. Many are ex-mil, many have guns and many are true believers and loudly and openly call for the violent overthrow of our Republic and the implementation of a Maoist style government (yelled through mega phones, on repeat for hours May, 1 2019...)

    I think they learned a lot this last year or so on how to organize and mobilize while avoiding as much telegraphing of their plans, and they learned many of the tactics of the police and modified their tactics innresponce and copied some things like the use of bicycles as offensive and defensive weapons.

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    Yeah, and seeing as how the leftists are being let out without so much as a slap on the wrist, while the bumbling fools, those that weren't FBI plants, from Jan. 6th are rotting in jail. Sounds like they have the blessings of officials in blue states.
     

    Axxe55

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    I think a civil war is quite possible at this point in the near future. I see two sides coming to attack many of us who are right leaning conservatives. I believe these two groups are different, but have a similar common goal of destroying America, and American values and ethics.

    The first group is our own government embracing and pushing for socialist and communist ideals, with their government programs and pushing and trying to steer us into a country of people who are dependent upon the government for their very existence. Hence what I believe is exactly why the government wants more gun control. Control the guns, and you control the people.

    The second group, are bit more elusive, but we know they are out their, under names like ANTIFA, the BLM and others not so well known yet. Their goals are similar, but still different from the first group, and the first groups is very much willing to promote and use them for their desired purposes, as being nothing more than useful pawns in very dangerous game being played here in our country. Now the second group, has not the first clue that they are being played by the first group, as means to an end, and when that end goal has been met, they will be no longer needed, and will be sacrificed in several different manners once the first group feels the goal has been attained.

    I think once the civil war does start, us right leaning conservatives are going to have to go to guerrilla warfare to survive, and that the country we knew and loved, will no longer exist as we know it.
     

    Sasquatch

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    The power players in DC are going full Marxist / Commie. Even our military "leadership" - started under Obama, if not before.

    Current Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, Mark Milley, has gone woke. Here's his testimony in front of Congress. He's justifying teaching Critical Race Theory at US military academies. He's blathering about "white rage" which is bullshit, and he straight up lied about what went down on Jan 6 - no one there was trying to overthrow the government or undermine the Constitution. Had they actually been, they would've shown up armed to the teeth and executed every politician they could, and there would've been a lot more dead people on both sides than the handful that there were. That capitol cop the media said was killed by the mob turned out to have had a stroke, he wasn't killed by the mob. So the only people killed by the violence, were killed by the police.



    Obama started purging generals who weren't paying tribute to wokeness. Trump tried reversing that, but the tentacles of the prior administrations were too deep. Now the Child Sniffer is "in power" more of Obama era deck stacking is taking place.

    Anyone notice what's going on in other parts of the world? An American civil war, or if you don't think we're already in a civil war, but facing civil strife nation-wide plays into the hands of our enemies and "allies" who would seek to capitalize on our downfall. Russia and China have announced an alliance against "American aggression" - Russia warned that they reserve the right to a first nuclear strike to maintain their national security. They fired warning shots at a British naval vessel near Crimea, which the Brits deny, but a reporter on the British vessel said they heard the shots.

    China is pushing hard into the South China Sea. They've upped their incursions into Taiwan's air defense zone. Russia was conducting war games near Hawaii. History is setting to repeat itself - and if the US is embroiled in turmoil at home, with shit leadership in DC, shit leadership in our military, and we're busy fighting one another, we're NOT in a position to effectively wage war against the two other global nuclear super powers.

    Biden & Co have been selling us out to every foreign power they could, he's been a laughing stock of the world stage. That's why I mentioned in my earlier post that the power players behind the scenes love what's going on in our streets. Doesn't matter who is in charge of the government so long as they don't rock the boat. Doesn't really matter if the US Government falls and becomes subservient to China, Russia, Germany, the UN, or whatever, because their wealth is no doubt secured and they've got agreements in place with foreign power players.

    What better way to have communism or some variant forced onto us than to get into a hot war with a foreign power, and to lose that war because our 'leaders' purposefully lose it, or lose it through sheer ineptitude and lack of will. "Peacekeeping" forces get sent in to pacify the country. We'd definitely be in a hot shooting civil war at that point, as well as a war with foreign invaders.

    Biden doesn't have the mental capacity to lead. He's a figure head, and I don't think he'd suddenly snap to. If anything they'll use his mental decline to capitulate and maybe the Chinese/Russian coalition could assume an "advisory" role in US political control without a shot ever being fired. We've already seen the cyber warfare, we've been engaged in economic warfare for decades with the Chinese. They wanted Trump out because he was a threat to China thru his America first policies and his call to bring manufacturing back the US.

    Now they have Child Sniffer in place, far easier to control, and he's already proven to be up for sale when he was VP.
     

    TheDan

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    It got me thinking though, could the size of U.S.A. have some delay in the conflict being "hot" on a national stage. Clearly there are regional conflicts and lost states.

    For any type of Balkanization to occur in my opinion it would require a total utility or federal .Gov failure.
    I think there's two main factors slowing things down...

    One is mainstream media (and I include the major streaming services in that) is totally sandbagging it for both the establishment left and radical left.

    Second is the general uselessness of the federal government. To the vast majority of people the federal government is irrelevant except on tax day and voting day. Part of that is the republic functioning as it should, but unfortunately a big chunk of it is deliberate obfuscation of how the federal government is farming citizens.
     
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