Just Dropped: Ruger-57

[zackmars]

HK MP7 is gas operated, same as SIG MPX. The only delayed blowback braced pistol there is in 5.7 is CMMG Banshee.

Hence why i said "delayed blowback MP7" in my first post

 

[SQLGeek]

Since the conversation is covering a wide range of related topics, does anyone have one of those AR uppers that ejects the 5.7 brass down through the magazine well? I have no use for such a thing but the convenience of attaching a bag to catch brass without having some ungainly thing hanging off the side of the rifle always struck me as really, really neat.

If you've got one, tell us what you think of it.

My buddy has one and loves it. He uses a hollowed out mag to catch the brass. He said it is pointless but fun.

 

[zackmars]

I have seen ballistics testing that said that as well. I was also going through reverse SRP in 2009 in early November at Ft. Hood where a very sad event took place that showed that the 5.7 round is quite effective.

The Ft. Hood shooter shot most people multiple times, IIRC, and had shot something like 5,000 rounds in practice before the shooting, and was for the most part, shooting unarmed people.

I think 5.7 has some merit, but the Ft. Hood shooting isn't exactly what I'd look to for validation that the round is good

 

[Younggun]

With what? My posts, roughly in the context of this thread, about the TCM and WMR are pretty much limited to some chrono data here and here. The after action report on the gathering that generated that data starts here.

If you're looking for the video of Mr. G, is this what you're looking for?

Thanks, Ben. It’s been a while since I ran mine over a chronograph. I’ll update my previous post.


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[TreyG-20]

The Ft. Hood shooter shot most people multiple times, IIRC, and had shot something like 5,000 rounds in practice before the shooting, and was for the most part, shooting unarmed people.

I think 5.7 has some merit, but the Ft. Hood shooting isn't exactly what I'd look to for validation that the round is good

I didn't say it was validation that the round is good. Just effective. Unless you are taking head shots, most people will require more than one round no matter the caliber used. Shot placement is still the key.

 

[Younggun]

The Ft. Hood shooter shot most people multiple times, IIRC, and had shot something like 5,000 rounds in practice before the shooting, and was for the most part, shooting unarmed people.

I think 5.7 has some merit, but the Ft. Hood shooting isn't exactly what I'd look to for validation that the round is good

Not going to say it’s good or bad. But it was designed with the goal of defeating light body armor with terminal ballistics being secondary.


Using rounds that have been determined suitable for the serfs it may perform slightly better than with the bullets it was built around, but it’s still going to have some disadvantages over other rounds.

With THAT said, most handguns aren’t enough to physically stop someone with one shot unless you have very good shot placement. The stops are usually going to be due to physical pain and fear, and eventually bleeding out. Bigger holes bleed more, I don’t want to volunteer to be the test dummy for the pain and psychological effects of being shot by 5.7 vs other common rounds. But if I had to get shot by something I’d probably choose the smaller bullet.


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[TheMailMan]

I'm tempted, but the nightmare stories about reloading 5.7 are seriously making me reconsider. "Cheap" ammo is about $0.39 - $0.40 per round. That's a bit more than I'd want to spend on a novelty.

This post from AR15.com sums it up.



https://www.ar15.com/forums/handguns/5_7x28_reloading/53-73395/



Damn, that looks nasty.

He's full of cow flop. True Blue power is available from almost every major supplier. I just checked Midway...guess what? They have it.

 

[subseashooter]

With what? My posts, roughly in the context of this thread, about the TCM and WMR are pretty much limited to some chrono data here and here. The after action report on the gathering that generated that data starts here.

If you're looking for the video of Mr. G, is this what you're looking for?

Thank you for linking this Ben!! I was thinking about this range day the other day and wondering where the footage went.

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[zackmars]

I didn't say it was validation that the round is good. Just effective. Unless you are taking head shots, most people will require more than one round no matter the caliber used. Shot placement is still the key.

It was a poor choice of words on my part, but the Ft. Hood shooting gets brought up a lot by 5.7 fans, often ignoring factors that don't line up with their view of the round.

 

[TreyG-20]

I got to handle one of these today at my local shop. They had 3 of them for $699 a piece. I kind of want one.

 

[SQLGeek]

I got to handle one of these today at my local shop. They had 3 of them for $699 a piece. I kind of want one.

When can we expect pictures of your new purchase?

 

[TreyG-20]

When can we expect pictures of your new purchase?

Soon! But probably on something else.

 

[EZ-E]

I was just checking Gun Broker, it looks like the Ruger 57s are going a few hundred above retail... $999.99. It reminds me when the PMR30s were hard to find & Gunbroker had them from $550 - $850

 

[subseashooter]

I was just checking Gun Broker, it looks like the Ruger 57s are going a few hundred above retail... $999.99. It reminds me when the PMR30s were hard to find & Gunbroker had them from $550 - $850

It'll come down. The patient will get them for under MSRP.

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[Moonpie]

I got to handle one of these today at my local shop. They had 3 of them for $699 a piece. I kind of want one.

Well don't tell us where they were or anything.

 

[TreyG-20]

Well don't tell us where they were or anything.

I'm hoarding them until decide if I want one! Kidding. Shady Oaks gun range in Cedar Park.

 

[txinvestigator]

Nevermind, already answered

 

[FireInTheWire]

Bum oil.

FIFY

 

[SQLGeek]

FIFY

Well time to close this thread.

 

[subseashooter]

https://www.usacarry.com/ruger-57-r...IRST REVIEW] The New Ruger-57 5.7x28mm Pistol



I'm going to go way out on a limb and say that this is not an entirely unbiased review.

That said, it pushes me further in the direction of wanting one of these dudes. Unless @Southpaw posts something I can't pass up in the good deal gun thread, I'm guessing I'll find one at a price that I agree with in the next 12-24 months.

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