Just had my WWII hero Dad's TRW M14NM retirement gift rifle confiscated by ATF

[Eli]

IIRC there was a lawsuit between parties on that site several years ago, and the site owner(s) and such ended up being named in the litigation.

Eli

 

[schmellba99]

TRW National Match att CMP

I as reading Emmerson book concerning Sauerman person of interest regarding the Ohio SD, A trial to determine if the TRW NM rifle 1453711 was legal to own . I downloaded the minutes of the trial off Wilipedia & would suggest others download the case REREAD THE CASE CLOSELY and comment...

www.milsurps.com

Based on what I can gather, the TRW NM rifles were classified by both the manufactuer and the Army as semi-auto only rifles and were built that way. That's why the welding was done pre-heat treatment of the receiver. The fact that it may have a lug or not is irrelevant - an argument could easily be made that one could grind the welds off to make it fully auto, but one could weld a lug on just as easy on a semi receiver as well.

The fact that the manufacturer, and previous court cases, have deemed the TRW NM rifles as semi auto is pretty clear.

 

[M14NM illegally seized]

The recent NYSRPA V Bruen case we will soon see, will have a tremendous impact on my case.

 

[Sasquatch]

The recent NYSRPA V Bruen case we will soon see, will have a tremendous impact on my case.

I hope so man! I'm sure they've destroyed the rifle at this point, but I hope you stick it to the bastards and get a good payout over it.

 

[gll]

I hope so man! I'm sure they've destroyed the rifle at this point, but I hope you stick it to the bastards and get a good payout over it.

Maybe they'll just have to get it back from the guy who took it home... ATF version of a war trophy...

 

[M14NM illegally seized]

I filed an injunction months ago that prevented them from doing anything with the M14NM.

 

[M14NM illegally seized]

oops

 

[candcallen]

I filed an injunction months ago that prevented them from doing anything with the M14NM.

Except tossing it in a barrel in the locker with a dozen other guns broomsticks and the like


American Gestapo

 

[baboon]

electro pencil case number on the receiver

 

[Mohawk600]

First mistake was letting ATF know you had it.

 

[AustinTSI]

I believe there is no part of the law that states the Police are responsible for returning seized items in the same condition in which they were initially seized. Which is why some people have gotten their property back in a parts bin with missing parts and with rust damage to the point of being worthless or unusable.

 

[Axxe55]

I believe there is no part of the law that states the Police are responsible for returning seized items in the same condition in which they were initially seized. Which is why some people have gotten their property back in a parts bin with missing parts and with rust damage to the point of being worthless or unusable.

Welcome to the forum.

 

[Guns308]

Good luck with this whole mess and thanks for sharing that the atf is not to be trusted or inquired of.

 

[Maverick44]

First mistake was letting ATF know you had it.

This. Never under any circumstances give them any information about anything unless you have an attorney (who actually understands firearm law) present.

 

[Tnhawk]

Good luck with this whole mess and thanks for sharing that the atf is not to be trusted or inquired of.

The atf is like the pile a cow left in the field, it stinks worse after you step in it.

 

[Tnhawk]

My attorney advised me to notify ATF so there would be no doubt of the legality of it.

I notified them on May 19. I felt that even if they ruled it was a machine gun I would be best off if I had an 07 FFL so I applied, was interviewed and got it in the mail on Saturday 8/23. I sent ATF an email that day.

You should have never invited the atf to be involved.

 

[TexasRedneck]

You need an attorney that understands NFA....yours doesn't, IMO. Sadly, you came here after the fact.

 

[rockyw]

Dam is all I can say

 

[M14NM illegally seized]

Hired a gun law attorney about 6 months ago. Suit has been in the court for over a year. Will be going to trial (or possible settlement {return of the rifle} in a few months) Judge has set it for pre-trial in the western district of Texas, Waco Court.

 

[PDiddy]

Good luck!