Kalashnikov for PP-2000

Discussion in 'General Firearms & Ammo' started by 483, Apr 15, 2009.

  1. 483

    483 Member

    Apr 11, 2009
    Dubna, Russia
    Short Kalashnikov will be substituted with a PP-2000 in the army


    by a source this model would be adopted for a secondary regiments.

  2. Strelok

    Strelok Ста́лкер TGT Supporter

    Nov 28, 2008
    Balcones Fault

    Thanks for the Post & Link.

  3. 308nato

    308nato TGT Addict

    Those are good pictures but I can't read a single word.
  4. dbgun

    dbgun TGT Addict

    Mar 17, 2008
    Houston, TX.
    Strange looking firearm.
  5. M. Sage

    M. Sage TGT Addict

    Jan 21, 2009
    San Antonio
    I think I'd rather have a Krinkov...
  6. Texas1911

    Texas1911 TGT Addict

    May 29, 2017
    Austin, TX
    That's more than likely what they went to. Kinda along the same reasons as why we are using M4s rather than MP5s.
  7. M. Sage

    M. Sage TGT Addict

    Jan 21, 2009
    San Antonio
    You mean the fact that decent concealable body armor will protect you from an MP5 (or this PP-2000) and not an M4 (or AKS-74U)? :D Or that the latter can make hits at 200-300 yards, while the former is limited to 100-150 if you're really pushing it out there?
  8. phatcyclist

    phatcyclist Active Member

    Feb 22, 2008
    Austin, TX
    The standard round for those and the new sidearm that Russia will be issuing is essentially a 9x19 +P+ with an armor-piercing steel core.

    Won't be seeing that come in as surplus any time soon.
  9. 483

    483 Member

    Apr 11, 2009
    Dubna, Russia
    English description from the manufacturer site here:


    There is some other translation:

    PP-2000 9-mm automatic pistol

    PP-2000 - today's firearm, designed for supplying high-density fire
    at a distance of close encounter.
    * full control of automatic fire, low dispersion and high accuracy are provided with
    optimal fire tempo, and good ergonomics.
    * utilizing the spare cartrige-bar as a fore-arm butt allows for enlarged carry ammo.
    * using heavy-duty plastic material the mass got reduced and the corrosivity lessen.
    * The automatic pistol is supplied with a gauge to fix different tipes of sights on it.
    * may come with a silencer.

    Having minimal mass and spacings, compared to analog's parameters
    of a modern combat pistol, PP-2000 is able to expose effective fire
    at a distance up to 200 meter.
    Using 9x19 pistol cartrige with anti-armore core (7H31) makes possible
    to penetrate the individual anti-bullet proof jackets.

    Main parameters:
    Caliber 9 mm
    Cartridge type:
    # 9x19 mm pistole cartridge with anti-armour core (7H31);
    # 9X19 mm cartridge with steel core (7H21);
    # 9x19 mm Parabellum (Luger)

    The type of fire - single and automatic.
    The distance of effective fire - up to 200 meters.
    Mass without cartridge-bar - 1.4 kg.
    Fire tempo - 600-800 rounds/minute.
    Cartridge-bar capasity - 20, 44.
    Spacing with fore-arm butt attached, 555 mm.
    Spacings without fore-arm butt, mm:
    with cartridge-bar for 20 rounds 340x43x185;
    with cartridge-bar for 44 rounds 340x43x305.
  10. kville79

    kville79 Active Member

    May 24, 2008
    Nice looking gun, I'd love to take it down to the last nut and bolt... odd looking gas system though.


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