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  • London

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    Just heard on the radio a few days ago krokodil has made it to Texas, now that a woman has checked herself into the ER admitting her gangrene was caused by abusing it. This is VERY bad news for Texas and eventually the country. If you don't know what krokodil is, allow me to introduce you to a few videos on the matter. Beware they are VERY nasty and probably NSFW:

    https://www.google.com/search?clien...l=suggest#channel=suggest&q=krokodil+liveleak

    It is basically the worst drug in the history of the human species. Using it once causes a smallpox vaccination-like wound (a red donut with a somewhat large perpetually oozing hole/gash in the center). It is unbelievable addictive, maybe even more so than any other drug, so there has probably never been an instance of someone saying "I only tried it once." Further use causes massive body infections/deteriorations eventually turning into gangrene-like infections of body parts which literally rot off while you are alive.

    As if we didn't have enough problems, now we're going to have to deal with drug-related crimes being perpetrated by NEEDLE-USING JUNKIES WITH MASSIVE OPEN WOUNDS LEAKING LARGE AMOUNTS OF INFECTIOUS GOO.

    The future is officially going to be a lot worse than you thought it was.
     
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    bryonbush

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    we were given a paper at work to look for this stuff but it was very vague and didnt tell much for the side effects. i think that it going to hit the US hard and it will make METH look like poprocks candy.
     

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    WTF would anybody try that?
    Edited for length from Wikipedia:

    The drug is easily made from codeine which can be derived from cough syrup, iodine from OTC medications and red phosphorus from match strikers, in a process similar to the manufacture of methamphetamine from pseudoephedrine. Like methamphetamine, desomorphine made this way is often highly impure and is contaminated with various toxic and corrosive byproducts. ... The street name in Russia for homemade desomorphine is krokodil .... The name derives from the notoriously severe tissue damage incurred by chronic users and the precursor α-chlorocodide. Due to difficulties in procuring heroin, combined with easy and cheap access to over-the-counter pharmacy products containing codeine in Russia, use of krokodil has increased.

    Basically, it's a cheap and easy substitute for heroin. I guess a heroin addict who can't get their fix might be willing to try anything remotely similar.

    This is doubly sad since heroin addiction is something that can actually be managed. It's possible to live a productive life, making a living and contributing to society, while taking heroin. There have been some great successes in, for example, Great Britain where actual heroin is prescribed in some cases instead of methadone.

    Here we have yet another stupid, unintended and severely negative consequence of the war on drugs. 100 years ago, when heroin was legal, only someone already insane would use something like krokodil.

    Nowadays, though, we're so much more enlightened. </sarcasm>
     

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    Just heard on the radio a few days ago krokodil has made it to Texas, now that a woman has checked herself into the ER admitting her gangrene was caused by abusing it. This is VERY bad news for Texas and eventually the country. If you don't know what krokodil is, allow me to introduce you to a few videos on the matter. Beware they are VERY nasty and probably NSFW:

    https://www.google.com/search?clien...l=suggest#channel=suggest&q=krokodil+liveleak

    It is basically the worst drug in the history of the human species. Using it once causes a smallpox vaccination-like wound (a red donut with a somewhat large perpetually oozing hole/gash in the center). It is unbelievable addictive, maybe even more so than any other drug, so there has probably never been an instance of someone saying "I only tried it once." Further use causes massive body infections/deteriorations eventually turning into gangrene-like infections of body parts which literally rot off while you are alive.

    As if we didn't have enough problems, now we're going to have to deal with drug-related crimes being perpetrated by NEEDLE-USING JUNKIES WITH MASSIVE OPEN WOUNDS LEAKING LARGE AMOUNTS OF INFECTIOUS GOO.

    The future is officially going to be a lot worse than you thought it was.


    All it is is a garage-rigged injectable opioid.

    There's nothing magically bad about it, the "TURBO UBER ADDICTIVE!" part is probably a reflection of the people who use it.
     

    M. Sage

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    LOL, the same rhetoric they used with crack when that came out. "ZOMG, it's so addictive that NOBODY CAN EVER STAY OFF IT!!!" Which turned out to be false.

    I still say this new stuff is a hoax. I don't see what brewing codeine with gasoline would accomplish that simply taking the base drug couldn't do at least as well without the horrific side effects.
     

    Edwarethered

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    I've seen some messed up stuff in my time, but the pics in this article took the cake. Whatever you do, do not look if you have a weak stomach or can't take graphic images. I'm pretty sure there are rotting corpses less disturbing looking than what this crap is doing. Russia's Flesh-Eating Drug Krokodil Has Arrived In The U.S. And Here's Why That Should Scare You

    As horrible as this sounds, if we wait long enough, the people dumb enough to do this stuff will kill themselves off right?
     

    benenglish

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    As horrible as this sounds, if we wait long enough, the people dumb enough to do this stuff will kill themselves off right?
    Not if they live long enough to procreate first. There always seems to be a new generation of stupid coming along.

    There's a line from the sci-fi novel Venus on the Half-Shell by Kilgore Trout (a pseudonym for Philip Jose Farmer) on the subject. Edited for brevity:

    "This same bright young executive later was inspired with the idea which rid
    Earth of all perverts. Somewhere in this universe was a planet where a
    particular Terrestrial perversion was regarded as not only normal but highly
    desirable. He ran another search through the computer...

    Earth was cleared of perverts, and everybody left looked forward to a golden
    age. But in twenty years Earth had just as many perverts as ever. This caused an
    uproar, and the governments of every nation set up investigative agencies. Their
    reports were never published, since they indicated that the system of
    child-raising was responsible. The voters just would not stand for this item of
    information. And so Earth quietly returned to normal, that is, it was once
    again full of perverts."

    As much as we might hope otherwise, I fear there will always be a ready supply of "people dumb enough".
     

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    ... the pics in this article took the cake.
    I just got around to actually looking at the link you provided. I swear, that last picture of a foot looks like if I held it in my (gloved, obviously, double-gloved, more likely) hand and gave it a gentle squeeze, it would explode pus and gore all over the place.

    The article did make a good point, though. Desomorphine is an addictive drug but it's not what's causing these problems. The problems arise from the horrifically toxic soup these home-brew chemists are putting together. I'm a fairly careful person and I can follow directions. I still wouldn't inject myself with a drug I made. If a TEOTWAWKI situation arose and persisted, I can imagine eating moldy bread to get something like penicillin or trying to run a still, but that's about the extent of my willingness to make my own drugs. It takes a severely warped perspective to think that anything good (or even just "without lasting harm") could come from buying weird shit on the street, cooked up by some addict out of paint thinner, gasoline, match heads, iodine, cough syrup, and who-knows-what-else, and then injecting it into your blood stream.

    I've known addicts. I used to say I couldn't keep track of which of my cousins was in jail at any one time for drug smuggling. In fact, I found out recently that one had died. She was just a couple of years older than me but a life of alcohol, heroin, meth, cocaine, and pretty much anything else she could get her hands on finally caught up with her. First there was liver failure then all her internal organs just started turning off. She went from walking around to underground in a little over a week.

    But even at her worst, I can't imagine she would have ever injected anything so routinely adulterated to this degree.

    It boggles the mind that even a heroin junkie in great need would accept this sort of substitute.
     

    cbigclarke

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    Well Ben...you know drunks have been known to drink rubbing alcohol, knowing good, and well its going to kill them

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    My wife used to manage an apartment complex in New Mexico. She had a guy come into her office and shit himself. The police told her he had been drinking white rain hair spray all morning. Its actually pretty common around there. Its mostly native American Indians who live on reservations where alcohol is banned. They call it "fire water".
     

    London

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    i swear, that last picture of a foot looks like if i held it in my (gloved, obviously, double-gloved, more likely) hand and gave it a gentle squeeze, it would explode pus and gore all over the place.


    Do it.
     
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