Liability of teaching new shooters

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  1. Shorts

    Shorts TGT Addict TGT Supporter

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    This question was posed on a forum:

    So aside from the answer of "if you're doing it often enough go ahead and get Instructor certified" and "get insurance", are there realistic concerns that should be addressed?
     


  2. Texan2

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    If he is just taking friends with him to the range because they want to try it out and is not advertising himself as an "instructor" then I think he is pretty safe IMO. Of course anyone can file a lawsuit for any reason at all....they would not have much luck in most courts.
    Despite all the horror stories we hear about lawsuits, most frivilous lawsuits are seen for what they are and dimissed.

    I think the key is whether he is holding himself out as a "buddy" or as an "instructor".
    I would not worry to much about it.... ranges have insurance for accidents.
    and if his friends want to sue him, maybe he is taking the wrong people to the range....
     
  3. sv6er

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    It might not be a bad idea to have a talk with them at the beginning and tell them they THEY are ultimately responsible for their own safety when around firearms and that he has absolutely no liability. He could then demand a verbal agreement (not that great from a legal standpoint, but if something happened he could have other people he's taken to the range testify that he gives that disclaimer to all of them, or he could have a third friend there as a witness to the verbal acceptance).. or he could print out a really short, non-intimidating liability waiver for them to sign.
     
  4. JKTex

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    :mad0079: If he's asking that question, then he needs to stop. It seems like to me, he's making something way to complicated, unless he's worried that the manner in which he's doing it is creating some sort of deception.

    To bring it home, how many CHL instructors are worried about the liability of a paying student not being able to handle a gun adequately (and we've all heard horror stories) or for a student not knowing the laws that the instructor addressed? And we've all read threads from CHL holders. If there was a liability issue, there are some CHL Instuctors that need to leave the country...fast. :rofl:
     
  5. txinvestigator

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    To comment on CHL instructors;

    I worry more about teaching outside of the CHL program. Unless it is a close friend and we are just shooting, I have anyone I instruct with sign a waiver. I know the limitations of a waiver, but it does help. I also stress safety, and regardless of who the student is, a demonstrated lack of safety results in an end to the lesson.
     
  6. Texan2

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    That was MY point earlier...
    He needs to "take friends to the range"
    not..."give lessons"

    tx investigator....you ability to pull up the law at a moments notice amazes me....
    a nice ability to have.
     
  7. txinvestigator

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    I appreciate that; however its just knowing where to look.
     
  8. pxranger

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    I agree. You sir, are a scholar and a gentleman. :fighting0002:
     
  9. Texan2

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    i have all that stuff at my finger tips too, but usually resort to looking in the book, the old fashioned way.
     
  10. Texas1911

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    Liability is assumed if you say you are something you are not.

    I help a dozen people, or likely more, a weekend working at Red's. I only offer advice, and it is their free will to accept it.
     

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