LOCAL SOURCE for 9X18mm hp Ammo?

[satx78247]

Friends,

I've just acquired a P-64 pistol (in "about as new" condition) & cannot find ANY 9mm MAK hollow-point ammo "in stock" in either SA or Austin.

Does anyone know of a CURRENT "in stock" source??

thanks, satx

 

[rp-]

Good luck with that. I only ever came across hp rounds once when I had my Mak and my pa-63. I believe it was silver bear brand. Had to pickup 750 rounds at a time though.

I've heard of some Winchester metric hp rounds but never have seen them in person. I did get some Winchester metric ball rounds once though.

 

[rp-]

Actually, now that I'm thinking I had to buy 1000 rounds but a friend took 5 boxes off my hands. What a pal....

Also, in my makarov and in my pa-63, HP wouldn't feed right. I had to modify the feed ramp to a point that brass cases would get a glock bulge in them. Waste of good brass... Keep that in mind. Hornady does make some XTPs bullets in 9x18 caliber (9.2mm). Maybe invest in some brass and dies?

 

[DubiousDan]

I managed to find 300 90gr Gold Dot bullets a while back in a discount bin at a local shop. Got some Starline brass to load them in.

Added a pic because people have told me they don't exist, Speer never made them.

 

[robertc1024]

I see ball ammo at the local Academy all the time, never any HP's though.

 

[jpatm2]

Last time I saw the loaded Hornady's was at Bass Pro. I do not know the current stock there, though.

 

[ROGER4314]

I know that you prefer "local" sources but I can recommend some options.

One of our TGT sponsors, COPES has 9x18 Makarov in stock. They ship fast, have $10 shipping for as much as you want. Ask for "Free 50". They may still ship free for orders over $50.

http://www.copesdistributing.com/9x18-makarov-c-45_114.html

I reload for the Makarov and the PA63. Midway has the brass & bullets for reasonable prices. Please note that the 9x18 does NOT use the same bullet diameter as the 9x19 or the .380.

Those are Kool little pistols and well worth the effort to snag the correct ammunition.

Flash

 

[motorcarman]

I carry a P64 (I have several) for EDC and use Hornady Critical Defense. I reload for Makarov, P83, P64, CZ vz 82, FEG PA63 etc. and use cheap Berry Plated or TULA steel case ammo for plinking. I even trim 9X19 NATO brass to 18mm and reform the case to accept .364. (it works just fine)

Unless you just need hollow point for target practice I recommend using Critical Defense for when it is needed and just plink with regular ammo.

(get a Wolfe spring kit and play around with different hammer and barrel springs!!!)

bob

 

[rl96ss]

I've seen Hornady hollow points pretty regularly at Cabela's. Usually grab a box when I go there.

 

[southtexaspilot]

Try Alamo Ammo on NW Military and West. They carry Hornady Critical Defense for $15 something a box. I shop there for hard to find ammo that I must have now.

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[satx78247]

motorcarman; All,

Fwiw, I have a LOT of Tula FMJ ammo for 9x18mm, that I bought for REALLY CHEAP for the little Makarov that I carried "off duty", before my daughter decided to "adopt it".
(IF you have NO daughters, you are likely NOT familiar with their tendency to decide that "Daddy's things" are freely hers to "adopt".)

When my adult daughter decided that she wanted a pistol & her CHL/LTC, she didn't want "a pistol"; she wanted MY pistol. = Noemi's comment was, "This little pistol is CUTE & way too 'girly' for you to carry. - I think I'll take it home with me."

Note: There is much truth to the old saying that, "A son is yours till he meets his wife BUT a daughter is your problem for the rest of your life." ====> RotflmRao.

THANKS to all. - I found some boxes of Hornady's Critical Defense & have ordered a Wolfe's spring kit for my "new to me toy". = Alamo Ammo has a BUNCH of it.

yours, satx

 

[motorcarman]

The Buffalo Bore 9x18 (#34A) is a +P ammo that I also use in some of my 9x18 that I keep around the house for 'anti-intruder' purposes.

You might find that also??

bob

 

[jcrntx]

Saw this stuff at Academy 1604/Potranco yesterday. Steel cased Monarch 14.99/50 rds.

 

[Buck Nekkid]

I have an awesome CZ 82 in 9 x 18 and Hornady Critical Defense is what I keep in the magazine. I use some gunshow stuff out on the range.

Buck

 

[satx78247]

Buck Nekkid,

YEP. I bought some Eastern European 95 grain steel-case 9x18 FMJ for 6.oo a box at one of the SA gunshows.= Shot FINE in my old MAK for informal range practice. - I'd buy some more boxes at that price if I could.

I shoot JHP exclusively for CC/SELF-defense.

yours, satx

 

[satx78247]

jcrntx,

In the "for what it's worth department" ACADEMY has a goodly pile of MONARCH brand JHP boxes of 50 for 14.88. - I bought 2 yesterday to try out.

Inasmuch as I have a huge pile of 9x19mm "once fired"/range pickup brass & a case trimmer, my brother is sending me a flat-rate box of 95 grain cast bullets for the 9x18, so I'll soon be "fixed up" for plinking/informal practice.
(one pound of powder will load a HERD of those small-capacity cases & YEP 9x19 cases work FINE, when opened up to take the MAK diameter bullets.)

NOTE: As a result of President ZERO "running his mouth" & the massacre in FL, CLASSIC FIREARMS is "backed up" on shipping everything. - EXPECT 2 weeks plus from ordering to shipping to you.
Otoh, when I talked to "Sarah" there by phone Saturday, she said that, "We have plenty IF people are patient."
She also told me that the company is hiring new people, to deal with the "rush" as fast as they can.

yours, satx

 

[rp-]

I also saw the abundance at the 410/Perrin beitel store this weekend. Thought about buying some incasr I run across another mak anytime soon

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[satx78247]

rp-,

CLASSIC FIREARMS had some Circle-10 Bulgarian Maks the last time that I checked. = Might be worth 5 minute phone call.

I'm thinking of ordering 3-4 more P64 pistols, while they have "unissued"/"as new" examples for a nice price & as "close-range people SAVERS" for the family/farm. = Even the Polish National Police manuals say that this is a DEFENSIVE firearm & that is suitable for defense out to 25M.
(Beyond that range, MOST thugs, who don't have a long-gun, are essentially INCAPABLE of hitting a human-size target, except by pure accident. - I've investigated cases where the criminal fired AT someone at 6-10 feet & didn't come close to hitting the intended victim.)

ADDENDA: In 1983, when I was stationed at Ft Hood, a "local thug", who was armed with a CHEAP little .32ACP SA (SORRY, I cannot remember the brand), shot at & MISSED an MP from literally "inside arm's reach", shooting "gangsa' style".
(After he fired the shot, the MP "whacked him up the side of the head" with a long flashlight, ending the "armed confrontation". = Just wasn't the PFC's "day to die", I'd guess.)

yours, satx

 

[rp-]

No funds... I owned a pa-63 which was my ex wife's gun. Kicked but shot nice. Owned a Chinese mak which was very accurate. Say what you will about the Chinese guns but ive had an SKS and mak that both could shoot competitions.

Then again, I've also shot a bunch that couldn't shoot a rice patty...

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[satx78247]

rp-,

China-made firearms VARY a GREAT DEAL in quality. = I've had the same experience that you have with them.= Once in South America, I was present during a raid on a drug "warehouse" & where several "as new" AK-47 rifles in 7.62x39mm and a "pallet of ammo" were seized.
(Inasmuch as the "local police agency" was "rather un-financial", we routinely "released firearms" that were seized to the agency, so that they would be better armed. - About 2 years before, when we arrived "in country", the MOST modern firearm in the agency's inventory was a group of "PRE-Model 10" S&W revolvers in .38-200 caliber, that I think were probably WWII British surplus.)

Thankfully, as the agency planned to issue them to their LEO, the local Guardia Civil commander ordered that they be immediately taken to the pistol range & "test fired". - The results of that "range session" was:
1. 26 AKs shot VERY well.
2. 9 AKs were rated "serviceable but barely acceptable in function & accuracy".
and
3. 2 of the weapons "failed to fire" at all, despite the attempts by the Range NCO to fire them.
(One "unserviceable AK was "repaired" & "made functional". The other was determined to be "unrepairable" & usable parts were removed & kept for spares. - The remainder of that one AK was crushed, so that nobody would attempt to repair/use it.)

yours, satx