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    Luckily (I guess?) cookies are no longer a temptation for me. About a year ago I got some sort of infection in my mouth and my sense of taste was the primary casualty.

    What is the single food that I have tasted in the last year that is most salty and most bitter, so much so that I have to spit it out immediately or it'll make me sick enough to throw up?

    Oreo cookies.

    That's f'd up, I tell ya.
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    Texas42

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    People could try losing weight without the supplement. None of them have any real evidence, and even if they did you have no idea how much is actually present in your supplement.

    I’m all for losing weight, but long term Keto diets are not usually sustainable.
     

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    People could try losing weight without the supplement. None of them have any real evidence, and even if they did you have no idea how much is actually present in your supplement.

    I’m all for losing weight, but long term Keto diets are not usually sustainable.
    Cutting back to 75 g of carbs per meal (not too radical) will also make a big difference in glucose levels.
     

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    Cutting back to 75 g of carbs per meal (not too radical) will also make a big difference in glucose levels.

    Never said it wouldn’t. My Uncle has gained and lost 50 lbs a halve dozen times in the past 10 years. His A1c jumps up to 12% then back down to 8%.

    And diet will always play a part in management of DM.
     

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    Cutting back to 75 g of carbs per meal (not too radical) will also make a big difference in glucose levels.

    I've been shooting for 120g/day for the last 4 years.
    As I stated previously, I dropped my A1c from 11, to 6.1.
    Still above diabetic levels, though.
     

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    Never said it wouldn’t. My Uncle has gained and lost 50 lbs a halve dozen times in the past 10 years. His A1c jumps up to 12% then back down to 8%.

    And diet will always play a part in management of DM.
    The diet yo-yo is why I mentioned the 75g limit. It is not so radical, and thus more sustainable long term.
     

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    People could try losing weight without the supplement. None of them have any real evidence, and even if they did you have no idea how much is actually present in your supplement.

    I’m all for losing weight, but long term Keto diets are not usually sustainable.


    How do you define sustainable ?

    Lots of people have been on them for going on 20 years now.
     

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    Ya I know its not cured but its laying on the ground writhing in pain.

    So after several years as a type2 going and seeing the doc every 3-4 months having my meds upped each time I stumbled into a web page talking about Keto and it helping out with blood sugar levels and a1c.

    I hate dr and hate meds so i jumped on the Keto plan full force. After the first month and a DR visit all of my numbers had plummeted. A1c was from 8.4 to 7.6 blood sugars were under 100 and the Dr lowered my meds removed me from Lisinopril as several nights my BS dropped to under 60 and I woke with cold sweats shaking and had to pop sugar pills.

    next check BS were still good A1c dropped to 6.1 she cut my metformin in 1/2 again.

    Next check she removed me from all meds a1c was 5.8

    Now not 1 time was I told that a drastic change in diet could result in lower meds or removal from meds. Granted it was a general practitioner and i HIGHLY recommend going to a diabetic specialist now that I know you don't have to stay on the wheel of more and more Dr visits and higher and higher doses or stronger meds. And make sure that specialist is aware of alternative methods over just text book prescribe more take them and call me in the morning.

    Is keto a cure all save the world thing with no issues I have no clue would I recommend it as something to try Hell yes if you are over weight or type 2 diabetic.

    I also lost 40ish lbs without starving or adding in more exercise but I do physical labor 40-50 hours a week and walk my dog 2-3 miles a day work days and 4+ on my days off once in the am and then late afternoon.

    I have not been losing anymore weight and I could lose 20lbs easy and still be considered overweight lol. but if I decided to by trimming some of the cheese and other
    stuff I enjoy it would come off.

    I started with the goal of getting type2 under control and it has done that. Weight loss was a bonus it has not driven any other parameters out of kelter but none were bad when I started.

    I will say I have been strict with 0 cheats and no days off.
    I never got Keto Flu

    I did have very loose stool the first week or so

    I have had a few boughts of constipation something I never had before but nothing that took me to the hospital :).

    Like it or hate it Keto worked for me and the cost of no real pasta or breads is well worth the price of admission to me and I LOVE pasta and bread.

    If you choose to try it I recommend letting your Dr know. and do continue to see them.

    Keto 5+ years here. I will be 57 this year. I have been full carnivore (meat only) for about 9 months. If you think that keto is helpful, try going carnivore and see what it feels like to be young again. I lost 20 lbs going keto and another 19 under carnivore. No more joint pain, no more brain fog, no more fatigue after lunch. It is all gone. Still working out 6 days per week and active, shredded, and ready.

    Semper Fi,

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    For me I have tried a few of the fake flowers and its just not worth it.

    It reminds you how good pizza and pasta make you feel So why torment yourself.

    If your buying all the Keto stuff your fooling yourself. When it started none of that was out there and people made it work. Now companies are jumping on the bandwagon and making you think what you are buying is Keto friendly or needed to make the diet plan work. Its not and all it does is line the companies pockets.

    You are better off lining the Dr office pockets than the companies selling that crap.

    Spoken like an old doctor or a rich pharma rep. Eat real foods, no sugars or grains and you won't need the meds. We deserve better than to be paying pharma for a mediocre existence. Meatrx.com
     

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    Keto does not allow fiber? I have diverticulitis and eat a high fiber diet, and can easily do so without consuming the high glycemic index carbs.

    When I am at my best physically and weight wise I eat a balanced diet of 40% carb, 30% protein and 30% fat. I avoid the white carbs and pasta, and eat monounsaturated fats. I also consume the calories appropriate for my activity level, weight and bodyfat percentage. What is the Keto percent of carb vs protein vs fat?

    There are no studies that validate any benefit to fiber. Listen to Dr. Paul Salidino, the carnivore doctor, Doctor Shawn Baker, the Meatrx.com founder. We have been fed lies for years about what food does to us, especially food that we were not designed to digest.
     

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    Guys, the reason that keto, or low carb, or cutting calories helps when you have Type 2 diabetes isn’t because the food you can or can’t eat to fit the diet necessarily. Although it can help with blood sugar spikes after eating.

    The reason it helps the great majority of the population is the resulting weight loss, or ...fat loss.

    When you eat food, a normal healthy person’s body releases insulin.. a hormone that enters the bloodstream to take the glucose, that your body converted from the food you just ate, into your tissue for energy.

    The body was designed so that food is fuel to do work and move. So when you eat, it breaks down the food into glucose sugar, and insulin carries that glucose into the tissue for use.

    As the insulin tries to carry the glucose into the tissue, the cells begin to resist the absorption of glucose sugar so your pancreas increases production of insulin and this helps for awhile, but in a lot of cases, it is only a short term fix, and eventually, the body stops or lowers the amount of insulin it makes and your blood glucose levels remain high and you may be diagnoses with diabetes.

    If your fasting blood glucose is over 100, you need to do 2 things to help reverse things.
    Lose body fat and move more.
    Even a brisk 10 minute walk right after you eat can help reduce blood sugar spikes because your legs have the larges muscles in your body and as you walk you are giving the body a way to use the excess blood sugar right away instead of eating and laying on the couch. (Very bad habit to have)

    And as a rule of thumb, I would not recommend anyone eat more than 10% of their daily calories from saturated fats

    These are lies told to us starting in the 50s by Ansel Keys. Modern science has debunked the cholesterol myth as well as the "fat is bad" line. As for "move more"....that is a bad lie. People are hungry eating the standard American diet. Telling them to move more is useless. They are hungry. That's why a low carb/high fat diet works; people eat food that provides satiety.

    If your doctor tells you to move more, fire him. If he tells you he wants to put you on a statin, fire him. If he recommends Metformin for your diabetes and tells you to eat normally, fire him. No sugars, no grains, no seed oils.
     

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    Developed in Baton Rouge where the diabetes is highest in the nation. Keto/low carb is easy and I don't buy the failure rate that you describe. I am not a doctor but have helped numerous people leave the Medicated diabetes life by nutrition alone, at ZERO cost. Atkins worked, keto works, and carnivore works.
     

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    Developed in Baton Rouge where the diabetes is highest in the nation. Keto/low carb is easy and I don't buy the failure rate that you describe. I am not a doctor but have helped numerous people leave the Medicated diabetes life by nutrition alone, at ZERO cost. Atkins worked, keto works, and carnivore works.
    I went from this guy:
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    in a little over a year. No Carbs, sugar, or fried foods and a metric fuckton of exercise. Moving does do a lot. Diet is huge, but so is exercise.
    Exercise has the added benefit of keeping your mind off food and kicking up an endorphin storm
     

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