Man picking up his kids from school arrested
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I didn't see any cop-bashing at the start of the thread, but by the third and sixth posts our LEO versions of Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton started chiming in. Some people always see cop-bashing even when there is none; no matter the situation.
FWIW, IMHO there was no reason whatsoever for the police officer to arrest the parent. If something had happened before the video starts, he would have arrested him at that time. Absolute over-reaction and abuse of that cop's position.
Most school districts are run by idiots. School boards don't exist to educate kids; they exist to distribute tax money for contracts to buy food, desks, building repairs, etc. Big school districts have budgets bigger than some Third World countries. Principals are hired to keep parents and problems away from the school board. As a result, schools stick to obeying rules with absolute disregard to any reason or logic. They become like 1930's Nazis. If you ever have to deal with a school on some little issue - like picking your kid up - you can understand the high level of frustration as you try to convince them that something is completely illogical. Anyone notice how the school official steps in long enough to basically say "rules are rules", but never tries to calm down the situation?
Did the parent push all the wrong buttons? Yeah, that seems pretty obvious too. He's obviously been involved in confrontation before this.
Any one of the three men in the video could have kept this from getting out of hand. They didn't. Shame on adults for behaving like (or worse than) children.
Most school districts are run by idiots. School boards don't exist to educate kids; they exist to distribute tax money for contracts to buy food, desks, building repairs, etc. Big school districts have budgets bigger than some Third World countries. Principals are hired to keep parents and problems away from the school board. As a result, schools stick to obeying rules with absolute disregard to any reason or logic. They become like 1930's Nazis. If you ever have to deal with a school on some little issue - like picking your kid up - you can understand the high level of frustration as you try to convince them that something is completely illogical. Anyone notice how the school official steps in long enough to basically say "rules are rules", but never tries to calm down the situation?
Did the parent push all the wrong buttons? Yeah, that seems pretty obvious too. He's obviously been involved in confrontation before this.
Any one of the three men in the video could have kept this from getting out of hand. They didn't. Shame on adults for behaving like (or worse than) children.
Nevermind.
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The guy mentions a previous problem with the school, I'm sure he was frustrated and don't blame him.
I also think their is some history between him and the cop. That shouldn't influence the officers actions but we all know how difficult it is to separate personal feelings in those types of situations so I'm sure it did.
To me it looks like the father needs to pull his kids from the school and find one that's more in line with what he wants.
I think the schools stance on this is full of retard. At any rate, I'm not sure what else the cop could have done. I don't think the guy would have calmed down unless he were allowed to walk out with his kid (that sentence shows how fucked the situation is). The cop had a choice to side with the school or the father and chose the school.
We also don't know for sure if the father wasn't creating a much bigger scene before the camera came on.
The blame lies on the school, the father, and the cop. I sympathize with the father. School and cop, not so much.
I also think their is some history between him and the cop. That shouldn't influence the officers actions but we all know how difficult it is to separate personal feelings in those types of situations so I'm sure it did.
To me it looks like the father needs to pull his kids from the school and find one that's more in line with what he wants.
I think the schools stance on this is full of retard. At any rate, I'm not sure what else the cop could have done. I don't think the guy would have calmed down unless he were allowed to walk out with his kid (that sentence shows how fucked the situation is). The cop had a choice to side with the school or the father and chose the school.
We also don't know for sure if the father wasn't creating a much bigger scene before the camera came on.
The blame lies on the school, the father, and the cop. I sympathize with the father. School and cop, not so much.
It didn't look like the cop had to do anything, since nothing was really going on.
jordanmills
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I wish more cops would keep that in mind. It's annoying when I have to start using their de-escalation training on them.
Just speculating here since I don't really know for sure, but the impression I got was the dad was there to pick up his kid on foot before he was allowed to. The rules said this wasn't allowed. Either the cop had to break the rules and let it happen, stop it from happening, or dad had to follow the rules.
I know it hadn't escalated to the point that dad was in the action of attempting to leave school grounds with said kid at the wrong time, but are there any other possible outcomes than the 3 listed above?
I agree the cop didn't "have" to do anything at the moment he did, and perhaps dad would have backed down eventually, but I'd lay money down saying he wouldn't. If the guy wants to go to jail, why waste time getting him there?
Since when do we have control freak cops standing in the office enforcing every idiotic policy of the local schools by the barrel of a gun? I see all the pro-LE points, but the main point is fat ass should be protecting the school from real threats, not arresting parents who have problems with stupid school policies. When you come from the private sector you realize how fucked up our schools are when the students and parents don't come first and the police are used as strong arms of the school/state bureaucracy.
breakingcontact
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The father couldnt have been more calm or polite. He was young, swoll and confident. Cop was old, fat and scared.
Pull your kids from public school folks.
Pull your kids from public school folks.
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Man is being interviewed right now!
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UncleSamsMisguidedChild
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What was his story? Is be interested to hear about their previous encounters from both sides
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All government policies are enforced at gunpoint. No exceptions.
Laws are force, period.
That's just sadly mistaken. That's statist talk. Also, school policies are not laws. If they were, I would have been sent away for life.
breakingcontact
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Oh no you di'int!
UncleSamsMisguidedChild
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So here is the video just before the OP posted
I see what you mean now. Yeah, they treat laws that way. We are obligated to break unjust laws.
breakingcontact
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They teach cops to keep their hands in their pockets when they feel "intimidated"?
This is a mess. School administrators and school boards often have foolish policies. Here however, a police officer is in some weird and im not sure how legal of a position of enforcing board policy/school rules?
This is a mess. School administrators and school boards often have foolish policies. Here however, a police officer is in some weird and im not sure how legal of a position of enforcing board policy/school rules?
