Mr. Mushroom!

[Pilgrim]

So, I was out at Best of the West this morning to take the new (and by new I mean new to my safe) Marlin 1894 made in 1981. I bought a box of 240g Winchester "Deer and Black Bear" JSP.

So there I was, loading and shucking away happy as a clam when I noticed this abomination halfway through the box...

Luckily, I visually inspect all of the rounds that I pack into my firearms. In fact, my fingers caught the aberration even before my eyes focused on it. Mmmm, mmm, mmm - don't really want to think about what may have happened if I tried to chamber that bad boy.

Hey Winchester if y'all are listening. Ya may want to keep an eye on QC.

On a side note, I bet y'all got pulled in by the title of this post... ya dirty birdies!

 

[Jakashh]

Call Winchester, get a free box of 44 mag, sell it, profit

 

[Pilgrim]

Call Winchester, get a free box of 44 mag, sell it, profit

Hell no! I'd shoot that free box, brother.

 

[Jakashh]

Hell no! I'd shoot that free box, brother.

I need another .44 mag lol. Preferably a revolver

 

[TreyG-20]

I have seen worse from Winchester premium. Somewhere around here I have a thread from some .380 pdx1 ammo I bought and one case was split all the way down so far that powder was exposed.

 

[Ole Cowboy]

I worked in the Ammo industry at one time and I can assure you that is difficult to do. They do ammo in runs just like painting cars at the factory. If its Thurs the second week of the mo then it must be paint them green day and in that you won't find any yellow ones. Much the same for ammo. What I guess is that the rd may have been from another run and somehow got knocked on the floor and someone picked it up or could have got stuck in the line somewhere and someone pulled and stuck it in the box. You might want to contact Win and just let them know so they can tighten up procedures. We had LOTS of meetings to insure safety and that things like this did not happen. Someone should have been instructed to turn the rd in to a supervisor, rather than put it back in the line...

 

[Pilgrim]

I reported it to Winchester along with pics and the lot number. We'll see what happens...

 

[macshooter]

Damn, looks like that case was out of spec/too long.

 

[Ole Cowboy]

I reported it to Winchester along with pics and the lot number. We'll see what happens...

be sure and let us know the results...

 

[PPTerry]

.....

 

[benenglish]

I expect all manufacturers to screw up from time to time. Here's one I pulled from a box of .221 Fireball by Remington:

 

[Pilgrim]

The cases look to be the same size, to me. Just a case of severe bullet set-back. I had a box of Remington 9mm mega pack (250 rounds) where about 6 or so were set back that badly or more, with another few that were set back just a bit. I notified Remington with the lot #'s, purchase location/method/etc & descriptions (I don't do pics). They tried contacting me a few times. [I don't let let manufacturers know about something like that out of any expectations that they'll "give me something."]

Yes, always good to inspect all ammunition before loading.--PPT

It's actually way out of spec. Looks like the case was trimmed incorrectly.

 

[Charlie]

It's actually way out of spec. Looks like the case was trimmed incorrectly.

This ^^^^^^^ ! Cartridge overall length appears to be about the same as the other one next to it.

 

[Jakashh]

It's Bush's fault.

 

[ArmyZach]

Am I the only one that thinks that would have chambered?
OAL looks about right, and no diameter bulge?

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[Dawico]

Am I the only one that thinks that would have chambered?

Depends on the chamber. Most chambers have a step at the end of the case that wouldn't allow room for the bullet and case to clear together. The diameter would be too big. If the firearm has a generous chamber or if the crimping press crushed the combo down to a smaller diameter it may go.

Good eye Pilgrim.

 

[Dawico]

What gets me is that many people think all factory rounds are perfect and won't touch a reload with a ten foot pole.

Some people don't realize how often this type of thing happens and gets sent out the door.

 

[Pilgrim]

I expect all manufacturers to screw up from time to time. Here's one I pulled from a box of .221 Fireball by Remington:

Looks like a failed crimp. Do you think they tried to roll-crimp and ended up bulging the case neck or did something bad happen during seating?

 

[Dawico]

Looks like a failed crimp. Do you think they tried to roll-crimp and ended up bulging the case neck or did something bad happen during seating?

My first guess would be that the case wasn't trimmed properly if it was just one (similiar to your round). The crimp on the seating die bulged the case. Ask me how I know what that looks like. It could also be that the seating die wasn't set properly and the factory caught the other rounds that this happened to.

 

[benenglish]

Looks like a failed crimp. Do you think they tried to roll-crimp and ended up bulging the case neck or did something bad happen during seating?

I never did figure it out. I can think of several ways I could screw up a reload to produce this result (case too long, wrong kind of crimper, slamming into the die to aggressively, etc.) but since I know nothing of the way the automated machinery works at a major manufacturer, I couldn't hazard any reasonable guess about the actual cause of this particular problem.