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  • Havok1

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    I think this shows how little you understand real people and that you aren’t really taking the time to see things through any lens but your own. Many 2 term Obama voters became Trump voters. Not just because Hillary was a terrible candidate, but because Obama has spent his second term driving voters away with his divisive comments.



    The party someone affiliates with is going to be the party they vote for in almost all cases. Regardless of their views on any single subject.



    When someone starts moving towards the right for whatever reason, it’s an opportunity to gain another vote against the left as well as an opportunity to help them see through the lies they’ve been conditioned to believe. When you say we don’t need “X” kind of person to vote Republican you are throwing away opportunities by pushing those people back in to the arms of the MSM and leftists.

    And in the case of someone like Musk, you have the odd eccentric billionaire who builds electric cars and a goofy looking truck, space ships, a crappy flame thrower (propane torch), and says crazy and often funny shit on Twitter. He’s also looked up to by a lot of young people who often copy the people they look up to. In a world that constantly screams the right is evil, you got this guy telling a generation of young Americans he’s gonna vote for right wing candidates and the left is nuts. The media attacking him for it will just give them another reason to stop listening to media lies. It’s a win for the right, we WANT his vote.



    Netflix’s biggest losses were from customers with accounts for 3 years or more. Pre-Covid memberships. Shortly after this came out Netflix sent out a memo telling it’s woke employees to get bent. And shortly after that the Ricky Gervais special is released (hilarious by the way, I recommend it). Netflix went from pandering to the woke minority to telling them to F off. Sure, they’ll probably still release some woke stuff, but it seems they’ve figured out they have lost a good number of memberships due to their pandering to a woke minority. I don’t think they are driving culture, but things like this show which way the tide is moving. Netflix wouldn’t take this stance if they thought the leftist ideology was dominant among their customer base.
    Whether or not I understand “real people” doesn’t really matter here. I’m just telling you how it is. Can you tell me exactly how many voters changed their views on gun control, immigration? Etc because of Obama? If not, none of what you say matters.

    You might as well drop the Netflix argument. It holds no water. Netflix earnings statement did not say in their earnings report that their “biggest losses were from customers with accounts for 3 years or more”. That information came from a 3rd party and they said 13% of the cancellations were people customers for 3 or more years. So 13% of .2%, if accurate. That would mean that the 3+ year customers who cancelled their memberships made up .026% of Netflix’s customer base. What was in their earnings statement is that they cancelled all services in Russia which accounted for a 700k subscriber loss. So if not for that, they would have been +500k, which is still short of their expectations. But the point is, your statements about peoples feelings toward Netflix are not backed by facts.
     

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    None of them are perfect and none will be. And that is part of the problem today.

    A politician doesn't match 100% of someone's personal agenda and they just completely trash the politician.
    I get that. But a liberal is a liberal. Doesn’t matter whether they tell me they are Democrat, reoublican, libertarian, independent, or anything else. A label is just a label.
     
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    I get that. But a liberal is a liberal. Doesn’t matter whether they tell me they are Democrat, reoublican, libertarian, independent, or anything else. A label is just a label.
    Not sure you do, based on your comment on Rand Paul.
     

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    Whether or not I understand “real people” doesn’t really matter here. I’m just telling you how it is. Can you tell me exactly how many voters changed their views on gun control, immigration? Etc because of Obama? If not, none of what you say matters.

    You might as well drop the Netflix argument. It holds no water. Netflix earnings statement did not say in their earnings report that their “biggest losses were from customers with accounts for 3 years or more”. That information came from a 3rd party and they said 13% of the cancellations were people customers for 3 or more years. So 13% of .2%, if accurate. That would mean that the 3+ year customers who cancelled their memberships made up .026% of Netflix’s customer base. What was in their earnings statement is that they cancelled all services in Russia which accounted for a 700k subscriber loss. So if not for that, they would have been +500k, which is still short of their expectations. But the point is, your statements about peoples feelings toward Netflix are not backed by facts.


    It matters when it’s the difference Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton becoming the president.

    And if you had paid attention you would have seen the multiple times I’ve said to use this as an opportunity to guide people away from ideas they’ve been spoon fed lies about their whole lives. Many people don’t really have views on gun control or immigration, or any other single issue. They’ve only been beat over the with “Dems good, Rs racist rich people” their whole lives. You seem to forget that the vast majority of people are low information voters and only know what gets said on CNN while they are standing in line at a gas station.

    I’m fine with dropping the Netflix topic. You seem to be missing the point anyways.
     

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    It matters when it’s the difference Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton becoming the president.

    And if you had paid attention you would have seen the multiple times I’ve said to use this as an opportunity to guide people away from ideas they’ve been spoon fed lies about their whole lives. Many people don’t really have views on gun control or immigration, or any other single issue. They’ve only been beat over the with “Dems good, Rs racist rich people” their whole lives. You seem to forget that the vast majority of people are low information voters and only know what gets said on CNN while they are standing in line at a gas station.

    I’m fine with dropping the Netflix topic. You seem to be missing the point anyways.
    Switching parties doesn’t mean someone would vote for trump. Those new republicans may have been Chris Christie supporters in 2016 before deciding to vote for someone else in the general election. Prioritizing the party is how Republican politicians continue to screw over voters time and time again. voters will support republicans because they are republicans and pay no attention to the fact that they are critical of democrats doing the same things. If people realize their views are wrong, Ok, that’s fine. But politics is more than just party line.
     

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    Switching parties doesn’t mean someone would vote for trump. Those new republicans may have been Chris Christie supporters in 2016 before deciding to vote for someone else in the general election. Prioritizing the party is how Republican politicians continue to screw over voters time and time again. voters will support republicans because they are republicans and pay no attention to the fact that they are critical of democrats doing the same things. If people realize their views are wrong, Ok, that’s fine. But politics is more than just party line.

    You are missing the point because you are stuck on making “Republican” a party line issue. Trump want following any party line. Plenty of R reps don’t toe the party line.

    The idea that republicans and democrats are the same doesn’t really hold water. Yes, the Republican Party has problems, but a very quick and easy check of who’s voting for what will show some pretty large differences. There are areas where things cross over. Shitty bills get passed. But to pretend they are the same is ridiculous. And currently there is no better alternative with Libertarians just being open borders socialists and the Green Party being much of the same.

    And no, it’s established that Obama voters switched to Trump. Chris Christie is irrelevant. They voted for Trump in the general election.

    Don’t put people who could be weened off the koolaid through a purity test. Befriend them and guide them. Let Musk use his cultural sway to bring younger generations over and bash holes in the MSM narrative. Don’t fight things that help us.
     

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    You are missing the point because you are stuck on making “Republican” a party line issue. Trump want following any party line. Plenty of R reps don’t toe the party line.

    The idea that republicans and democrats are the same doesn’t really hold water. Yes, the Republican Party has problems, but a very quick and easy check of who’s voting for what will show some pretty large differences. There are areas where things cross over. Shitty bills get passed. But to pretend they are the same is ridiculous. And currently there is no better alternative with Libertarians just being open borders socialists and the Green Party being much of the same.

    And no, it’s established that Obama voters switched to Trump. Chris Christie is irrelevant. They voted for Trump in the general election.

    Don’t put people who could be weened off the koolaid through a purity test. Befriend them and guide them. Let Musk use his cultural sway to bring younger generations over and bash holes in the MSM narrative. Don’t fight things that help us.
    then I look forward to you proving me wrong by telling me all about which of his political views have changed.
     

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    then I look forward to you proving me wrong by telling me all about which of his political views have changed.

    Still not getting it.

    His political views don’t matter, aside from the fact that they are so misaligned with democrats that he will vote against them. And he told everyone he was going to do it. This opens the door for a lot of young people who look up to him but have been indoctrinated to believe the lies.

    Those young people are the ones who matter. Musk already did his part.
     
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    This inability to grasp how to use culture and cultural icons is what allowed leftist ideology to become so prevalent.
     
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    Musk has been red pilled in a sense. Many democrats have gone so far left that Musk can now identify more closely to the right, and I appreciate that he can see that. I don't like Joe Manchin, but I can appreciate that he's not so far left that he'll screw his constituents over a bad bill to maintain an ideology.

    I may not agree with all of Musk's views, but it's good to see that those that would have been considered democrats in the past are not so far gone to the left that they can't see through the BS of the democrats of today. I only hope it wakes up more to the woke.
     
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