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My first rock Island and quick review.

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  • Sam7sf

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    Not new to a 1911 but new to rock island. More specific: a gi model.

    I couldn’t say no to the price and I might be one of few who enjoy gi features over modern ones. After all I removed the full length guide rod in my Springfield in favor for a gi recoil system. I like the gi recoil system for an easy take down.

    One thing I won’t do in this review is down range performance. I’m not some bad ass operator looking to give advice or opinions on shooting. I still haven’t figured out my shaking. Also forgetting a camera on range day is always smart. Just know this gun points great as with any 1911 and it’s accuracy is just as good as my Springfield. I like reviews detailing function testing and part break in.

    The very first troubling thing I noticed out of the box was the magazine. I knew off the bat I couldn’t judge any feeding issues on the gun if all the parts checked out before shooting. They did.

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    (Funny note: I randomly picked up a cleaning mat and it happens to be a 1911 one. How funny).

    kci. Enough said. For those of you that don’t know kci is just one step above promag. I knew immediately I would have some kind of feeding issues in this oem supplied 8 round mag. Fortunately if loaded to 7 rounds, the gun experienced no problems and ran 100 percent and locked back in testing. I was disappointed to see kci being supplied with the gun. Come on rock island. If rock island shipped it with no mag and left a note explaining all they had access to was kci, I would have called telling them thank you for the outstanding customer service.

    Another immediate observation (note I’m not calling this a complaint for the price point) is the parkerizing. It’s going to scratch and wear easy. So if you’re new to 1911’s and want to hide the idiot scratch from your friends, just get a rock island and handle it a bunch.

    Alright after shooting and breaking it in let’s dive into the parts.
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    (saaaafeeety check)
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    (remember kids: you don’t need a barrel bushing tool. You have your hands)
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    (the area in the frame that the barrel makes contact with. The rear of the barrel link area. Nothing troubling. Standard peening/break in)
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    (now finally something to keep an eye on. The fillets in the slide and it’s relationship to the base of the guide rod. I’m not throwing up red flags yet but this reminds me of my very first 1911. A Charles Daly. Malfunctions increased because that guide rod base would flare out catching the slide. Definitely something to monitor if you get a rock island gi and have feeding problems that show up down the road. Easy fix with a file)
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    (Lugs working in great. This is what you want to see. The corners are staying sharp. Not shown is the extractor, barrel bushing and sear all no issues or red flags)
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    (Now it’s time to apply lube and put it back together with an idiot scratch)
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    (just kidding)

    Im not disappointed in this gun. Rock island gi in the low 400 dollar range? Yes please. 500 dollars? No thanks. Would I buy upper end rocks? Probably not. The gi is definitely worth the buy if you can get one at a good price point.
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    TexMex247

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    I almost bought one of these years ago when they were $369 but that ship has sailed. Do you have a pull gauge to check the trigger weight? Overall it looks nice enough, I like the dark finish.
     

    Sam7sf

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    I almost bought one of these years ago when they were $369 but that ship has sailed. Do you have a pull gauge to check the trigger weight? Overall it looks nice enough, I like the dark finish.
    I have access to one. Will report back.
     

    TxStetson

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    Not new to a 1911 but new to rock island. More specific: a gi model.

    I couldn’t say no to the price and I might be one of few who enjoy gi features over modern ones. After all I removed the full length guide rod in my Springfield in favor for a gi recoil system. I like the gi recoil system for an easy take down.

    One thing I won’t do in this review is down range performance. I’m not some bad ass operator looking to give advice or opinions on shooting. I still haven’t figured out my shaking. Also forgetting a camera on range day is always smart. Just know this gun points great as with any 1911 and it’s accuracy is just as good as my Springfield. I like reviews detailing function testing and part break in.

    The very first troubling thing I noticed out of the box was the magazine. I knew off the bat I couldn’t judge any feeding issues on the gun if all the parts checked out before shooting. They did.

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    (Funny note: I randomly picked up a cleaning mat and it happens to be a 1911 one. How funny).

    kci. Enough said. For those of you that don’t know kci is just one step above promag. I knew immediately I would have some kind of feeding issues in this oem supplied 8 round mag. Fortunately if loaded to 7 rounds, the gun experienced no problems and ran 100 percent and locked back in testing. I was disappointed to see kci being supplied with the gun. Come on rock island. If rock island shipped it with no mag and left a note explaining all they had access to was kci, I would have called telling them thank you for the outstanding customer service.

    Another immediate observation (note I’m not calling this a complaint for the price point) is the parkerizing. It’s going to scratch and wear easy. So if you’re new to 1911’s and want to hide the idiot scratch from your friends, just get a rock island and handle it a bunch.

    Alright after shooting and breaking it in let’s dive into the parts.
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    (saaaafeeety check)
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    (remember kids: you don’t need a barrel bushing tool. You have your hands)
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    (the area in the frame that the barrel makes contact with. The rear of the barrel link area. Nothing troubling. Standard peening/break in)
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    (now finally something to keep an eye on. The fillets in the slide and it’s relationship to the base of the guide rod. I’m not throwing up red flags yet but this reminds me of my very first 1911. A Charles Daly. Malfunctions increased because that guide rod base would flare out catching the slide. Definitely something to monitor if you get a rock island gi and have feeding problems that show up down the road. Easy fix with a file)
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    (Lugs working in great. This is what you want to see. The corners are staying sharp. Not shown is the extractor, barrel bushing and sear all no issues or red flags)
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    (Now it’s time to apply lube and put it back together with an idiot scratch)
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    (just kidding)

    Im not disappointed in this gun. Rock island gi in the low 400 dollar range? Yes please. 500 dollars? No thanks. Would I buy upper end rocks? Probably not. The gi is definitely worth the buy if you can get one at a good price point.
    I have the same parkerized finish on my RIA 10mm, and it has held up great. I haven’t treated it the greatest either.
     

    Sam7sf

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    My fil has a remington 1911 new production and I must say the bluing is nice and it feels well built.
     

    TxStetson

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    How has the gun held up to 10mm?
    Like a tank. I hated it and regretted buying it the first 2 range trips. I couldn’t find any full power loads and hadn’t started reloading 10mm yet, so it jammed a lot. After a good break in period with hot ammo it runs flawlessly. My only complaint is the ejected brass travels between 15 and 20 yards.
     

    Grumps21

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    Thanks for the write up. I’ve read good things about RIA, and the value for $ spent is hard to beat. I’m no 1911 expert, and only regurgitating what I’ve read, but I seem to recall an article where it stated that the RIA GI is the closest modern day 1911 to the original military issue
     

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    I bought the RIA GI model and enjoyed it so much I bought the TAC CS. Love shooting them both and have had some FTFs but they're still not broken in yet. I'm trying to shoot them a little wetter than I normally wood and so far no more FTFs.
     

    Sam7sf

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    I bought the RIA GI model and enjoyed it so much I bought the TAC CS. Love shooting them both and have had some FTFs but they're still not broken in yet. I'm trying to shoot them a little wetter than I normally wood and so far no more FTFs.
    Breaking in a gun is based on the individual gun. I had some that took hundreds of rounds and others like this one take 50 rounds of various rounds. Again once I noticed the mag was kci and it wouldn’t feed a full mag I loaded 7 without questioning what was going on.

    there’s a lot of potential possibilities for feeding issues without inspection of the gun before shooting. Things I looked at immediately was barrel lock up, slide to frame fit, mag catch location. Having a Charles Daly as a first 1911 was a good learning curve for things to check as so much was wrong with it.

    I remember going to sportsmans warehouse and feeling the barrel lock up on a higher end rock and it had lots of play in it but you know what? So did a ruger. The kimbers didn’t but I wasn’t about to buy a kimber.

    All I know is barrel lock up and slide to frame fit feel just as good as my Springfield and my father in laws Remington. My Springfield out of the box ate any ammo. Ball or hp. So far my Springfield has yet to give me a ftf.
     

    Sam7sf

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    A list of problems that old Charles Daly had:

    mag catch location out of spec.

    Guide rod out of spec and peening.

    chamber out of spec. With hotter loads it would stick in the chamber.

    Not so great feed ramp.

    It was a two tone model and was 450-500 bucks and that was early 2000’s. My second handgun.
     

    Glenn B

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    I've got a Rock Island Armory 1911-A1 Tactical .45 Auto Full-size Pistol 51431. Bought it in 2016 from RK Guns for $379.98 shipped. It was a good price even back then. That one had some by now forgotten issue and had to be sent back to the factory. When they got it, they checked it out and said there was an issue other than the one for which I sent it in for repair. They said it could not be fixed, as I recall a flaw in the slide or frame but do not quote me on that. They replaced it. The one they sent me as a replacement is the one I still have now. It's a good gun, no problems with it.
     

    Sasquatch

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    A list of problems that old Charles Daly had:

    mag catch location out of spec.

    Guide rod out of spec and peening.

    chamber out of spec. With hotter loads it would stick in the chamber.

    Not so great feed ramp.

    It was a two tone model and was 450-500 bucks and that was early 2000’s. My second handgun.

    I had a Charles Daly 1911. Unless you had one of the ones made by BUL (Israeli) you have actually probably had a Rock Island previously, or rather, an Armscor made gun - Rock Island guns are Armscor made. They supply or supplied a number of brands - the rollmark was the only/biggest difference.

    My Charles Daly / Armscor 1911 was full of poorly made MIM / cast parts. I had the GI recoil spring guide shatter during recoil - I actually put about 3 rounds or so down range - recoil was weird on the first clue - but the target got hit so I figured maybe an overpower load. The next shot also was kinda wonky, but again, a hole in the target. Next shot - the gun locked up solid, with a live round chambered. I had to beat the slide off the gun. That was...uncomfortable

    When I got it apart I kicked myself for not stopped 2 rounds earlier. The cheap guide rod rattling around in there chewed the hell out of the frame. Took it to a gun smith who did did his best to fix it. I replaced the broken piece with an Ed Brown model hand fitted to the gun, I think I also wound up replacing the ejector at that time too. I no longer trusted the gun and traded it in on a Sig P220. That experience soured me on the Filipino made guns. QC might've well changed since they were cranking out guns for Charles Daly, and I know more than a couple dudes who swear by them - but just like Taurus - I'm not at a point where I'd drop money on one when for a few bucks more, I can get a known good gun.

    FWIW I hadn't seen any signs of the guide rock cracking prior to shooting. I was testing out some 200 grain Cor Bon JHP's when my Charles Daly shit the bed. Great round and when I could find them, those were my preferred .45 carry rounds. Very accurate rounds.

    I hope your experience proves way better than mine with the Armscor guns!
     

    andre3k

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    The RIA 1911's always had pretty good reviews. The new imported 1911's from Turkey are sleeper pistols. SDS Imports 1911's have forged frames and slides, series 70 design along with CHF barrels for less than $500. I'm not much of a 1911 shooter but thats a good deal.

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    Wolfwood

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    I miss my RIA Government.
    Plain Jane, but felt "right"

    Sold it more than 10 years ago to buy an engagement ring.

    Looking back I dont regret it, but I do need another Government model.
     

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    The very first troubling thing I noticed out of the box was the magazine. I knew off the bat I couldn’t judge any feeding issues on the gun if all the parts checked out before shooting. They did.

    View attachment 303503
    (Funny note: I randomly picked up a cleaning mat and it happens to be a 1911 one. How funny).

    kci. Enough said. For those of you that don’t know kci is just one step above promag. I knew immediately I would have some kind of feeding issues in this oem supplied 8 round mag. Fortunately if loaded to 7 rounds, the gun experienced no problems and ran 100 percent and locked back in testing. I was disappointed to see kci being supplied with the gun. Come on rock island. If rock island shipped it with no mag and left a note explaining all they had access to was kci, I would have called telling them thank you for the outstanding customer service.

    Yeah, the reason I bought my RIA 1911A1 is because it was the GI model - no modern doo-dads at ALL. I wanted one as close to the original design as I could get, and I wasn't disappointed.

    What is disappointing is that KCI mag - mine came with a Mec-Gar 8 round mag and it's given me no trouble at all.
     
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