National Gun-Carry Reciprocity Bill Moves to Mark Up in the House

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  1. Wedge1

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    The national gun control group on Wednesday came out with a list of items they contend skirt federal firearms laws and threaten public safety.

    Describing the items as “the next bump stock” the group argues in a report that each device, ranging from AR-style pistols to suppressed muzzleloaders, is in need of additional regulation and oversight under the National Firearms Act.

    “Before bump stocks were used to kill 58 people and maim hundreds of others enjoying an outdoor concert, most Americans had never heard of the device,” said David Chipman, a former ATF agent now working for Giffords. “Now there is a growing cry from communities across the nation to make sure bump stocks can’t fall into the hands of another dangerous person. But it’s not the only device gun manufacturers are pushing that can give someone the firepower of a machine gun.”

    The report, entitled “Lethal and Legal” holds that aftermarket binary triggers and trigger cranks should be controlled as machine guns, saying “The gun industry has exploited the NFA’s reference to a ‘single function of the trigger'” to market the devices.

    Next, the Giffords say shotguns capable of holding 12 or more rounds, like the UTAS12, are “anti-personnel firearms” and should meet the guideline used for destructive devices such as the Street Sweeper which was placed under NFA regulation in 1994.

    The group, fronted by former U.S. Rep. Gabby Giffords, argues that AK and AR-style pistols use a design that “is a clear attempt to circumvent the NFA’s attempts to closely regulate short-barreled rifles” as are pistol arm braces and blade stabilizers.

    “Again, this attachment allows shooters to possess a weapon with the concealability and accuracy of a short-barreled rifle while skirting the regulations of the NFA,” says the report before moving on to incendiary, armor-piercing and .50-caliber ammunition and the rifles that accept it.

    Saying the rounds are designed to “destroy or disable light armored vehicles, radar dishes, stationary and taxiing airplanes, and other high-value military targets,” the report paints a picture of their potential use by terrorists.

    Finally, the paper casts shade at black powder guns in general– which are not regulated as firearms by the ATF– and the SilencerCo Maxim 50 moderated muzzleloader in particular.

    “This weapon is designed with a built-in device to suppress its sound. If any other firearm were built with such a device, it would be subject to the NFA as a silencer,” says the group
     


  2. Wedge1

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    That is exactly what the Dems and the government want from the NFA. WORD FOR WORD!!!
     
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  3. popper

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    Hb 38 now has all the Cornyn/Feinstein stuff in it. Didn't amend it, just rewrote it. Got a response from Cornyn, he's al for it. No response from Cruz so I assume he is also. Kinda like hate crimes and diversity, define whatever 'they' want as a crime. Neither will get my vote next time. Use bacon and you are unstable of mind.
     
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  4. Vaquero

    Vaquero Pre-ban Staff Member Admin

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    "Line item veto".


    Time to pay the piper.
     
  5. busykngt

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    So far (and it’s pretty late in the game), Senator Cruz is NOT a co-sponsor of Cornyn’s “Fix NICS” bill.
     
  6. popper

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    "Description: H.Amdt. 493 — 115th Congress (2017-2018)All Information (Except Text)
    As of 12/14/2017 the description for this amendment has not been received.
    Purpose:
    Amendment in the nature of a substitute."

    Amendment to HB38 NO text available yet (? need to drain the clerk swamp also?) - basically no longer a reciprocity bill.
     
  7. Wildcat Diva

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    Abort! Abort!



    I guess. She talks down to the audience a bit. I feel a little dumb watching her videos.
     
  8. busykngt

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    I don’t watch her videos - I’m not familiar with her. I disagree with a fundamental premise of her narrative in the above link. She claims everyone who would be acting under the ‘National Reciprocity Act’ thinks or believes this would give them a way around an individual’s state gun/carry laws. I actually don’t know a single individual who thinks or believes that.

    She used the example of a thirteen round magazine being carried across a state line of a ten round magazine state. Every carrier I know and have spoken too, understands a carrier wound still have to meet the laws of the state they’ve crossed into (just like they have to, now). So I personally think she’s throwing out a ‘red herring’ with her concern about certain states passing a whole bunch of new laws. Reminds me of all the legislators who predicted gun fights in the streets and blood running in the gutters when OC was passed in Texas!
     
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  9. NavyVet1959

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    I would have to take whatever she says with a gain of salt... In other words, no different than when any other woman says something... :)

    Yeah, if the Congress had wanted to do that, they would have just created a law that told the states to honor the 2nd Amendment. Oh, wait a minute... They're supposed to be doing that already, aren't they? Well, I'm sure if we created yet another law telling them to do it, they would start doing it, right? :(

    Only about 4% of Texans have a CHL and probably a good portion of them don't routinely carry. I suspect of that 4%, only a small percentage would be inclined to OC. It's nice to have the choice though -- especially on those 100F and 100% humidity days during the summer.
     
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  10. gll

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    https://suburbanstats.org/population/how-many-people-live-in-texas

    About 25.1million Texans, but only 20.6m are eligible for LTC by age. No idea how many who are eligible by age are ineligible by law, but it could be a bunch! Maybe 1 in 10? That could leave as few as 18.5m eligible for LTC. With LTC already over 1m in 2016, I think I saw somewhere that LTC was now near 1.3m (though naturally, I can't find that number anywhere, now). Texans eligible to LTC and licensed might be as high as 7%...

    But who's counting... or quibbling? ;)
     


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