Neckbeards, Knuckleheads, and Attention Whores?

[Sapper740]

So, for some of you, calling names is what passes for mature, intellectual discussion? You know this is right out of the Liberal handbook, don't you? Call those you disagree with names, marginalize them, then it's easier to dismiss their point of view, isn't it? The OC movement may not be your preferred method of bringing attention to the fact that not all gun owners are wackos, that many are mom and pop couples like the nice ones who live down the block from you, but until one of you presents some empirical evidence that OC movements ARE damaging our efforts to support the 2nd Amendment then all you're presenting are opinions and you all know what we say about opinions.

 

[mitchntx]

 

[Sapper740]

The tactics I mentioned are well known Liberal tactics. Or do you want to argue that point too?

 

[dustycorgill]

 

[Sapper740]

The tactics I mentioned are well known Liberal tactics. Or do you want to argue that point too?

Mitch? Where'd you go?

 

[Sapper740]

Stick around Dusty, this should be a good'un.

 

[breakingcontact]

Sapper any pix from the OC rally you attended?

 

[Kaos]

dont all three sides use choice words to describe the other?

 

[Sapper740]

dont all three sides use choice words to describe the other?

I can't speak for others, but I haven't seen any intemperate language used on this forum by those, well, just me I guess. I seem to be the only TGT member that supports these OC rallies.

 

[mitchntx]

Wouldn't "liberal" be considered "name-calling"?
Or just those who oppose your point of view?

What seemingly can't be understood is that we all want the same thing in the end.
Why waste so much energy on those of us who, botom line, are like minded?
Wouldn't it be better spent on something more constructive?


The division is tactics ...

I want to work the process using "tactics" that are defined and accepted by ALL those involved on either side of the fence.
The other is in your face camouflaged as education.

One generates debate and dialogue ... the other divides and creates tension.

You, BC and many others dont care for me and that's fine. The ignore feature on this site works quite well.
But don't post a veiled attack on those you don't care for. That's just sad.

Either don't post or get to know what makes your "enemy" tick.

 

[Sapper740]

Sapper any pix from the OC rally you attended?

Yes, I've got a bunch. I'm just heading out the door to get some running around done before I go in to work this afternoon. I'll try to post them tomorrow if I have time and I don't have any further problems with the TGT website. It's hit or miss when it allows me to upload pics.

 

[Sapper740]

Wouldn't "liberal" be considered "name-calling"?
Or just those who oppose your point of view?

What seemingly can't be understood is that we all want the same thing in the end.
Why waste so much energy on those of us who, botom line, are like minded?
Wouldn't it be better spent on something more constructive?


The division is tactics ...

I want to work the process using "tactics" that are defined and accepted by ALL those involved on either side of the fence.
The other is in your face camouflaged as education.

One generates debate and dialogue ... the other divides and creates tension.

You, BC and many others dont care for me and that's fine. The ignore feature on this site works quite well.
But don't post a veiled attack on those you don't care for. That's just sad.

Either don't post or get to know what makes your "enemy" tick.

Mitch, you are completely wrong...I value and respect your opinion, I just don't agree with you all the time. I'm sorry, I'll expand on this post later but I've got to get my ass out the door to get my week's groceries or I'll be eating out of the vending machine at work.

 

[mitchntx]

I look forward to it ...

 

[AustinN4]

[h=1]NRA Calls Texas Open Carry Protests "Downright Weird" and "Just Not Neighborly"[/h]
NRA Calls Texas Open Carry Protests "Downright Weird" and "Just Not Neighborly" | Dallas Observer

 

[breakingcontact]

I have no personal issues or dislike of Mitch or anyone on TGT. I dont really know most of you well enough to dislike you.

 

[Saltyag2010]

NRA Calls Texas Open Carry Protests "Downright Weird" and "Just Not Neighborly"


NRA Calls Texas Open Carry Protests "Downright Weird" and "Just Not Neighborly" | Dallas Observer

Great article. I side with the NRA. Open Carry Texas isn't getting people accustomed to seeing Texans carrying guns. It's bringing more attention to our right to open carry long guns- and not positive attention.
I like having more rights but when you scare moms or minorities MSNBC will come after you. Why give MSNBC news content?

 

[Tejano Scott]

Guess I must be a liberal nut job. I support OC, but hell even Wendy Davis does so that doesn't say anything. What I do find interesting is the OC crowd and their desire to split the 2A movement. While I support the right to OC, I'm no fan of these silly rallies and showing up to businesses and forcing them to make a decision. I feel the OC crowd is their own worst enemy and largely to blame for why many folks/businesses don't support OC.

Just one liberal's opinion. Lol.

 

[AustinN4]

While I support the right to OC, I'm no fan of these silly rallies and showing up to businesses and forcing them to make a decision. I feel the OC crowd is their own worst enemy and largely to blame for why many folks/businesses don't support OC.

That sums it up pretty well for me also.

 

[AustinN4]

Neckbeard - I'll confess I had to look it up. For others like me that might be unfamilier with the term, here it is: Urban Dictionary: neckbeard

 

[TAZ]

Guess I must be a liberal nut job. I support OC, but hell even Wendy Davis does so that doesn't say anything. What I do find interesting is the OC crowd and their desire to split the 2A movement. While I support the right to OC, I'm no fan of these silly rallies and showing up to businesses and forcing them to make a decision. I feel the OC crowd is their own worst enemy and largely to blame for why many folks/businesses don't support OC.

Just one liberal's opinion. Lol.

Bingo. While I am not some statistics expert nor have I stayed in a Holiday Inn Express, 4 business who were relatively neutral on the whole 2nd amendment took the wrong side after OC people showed up. If the end goal of each rally was to raise awareness and bring more people into the fold, I'd say they did it wrong cause that ain't what happened.

Over the last few decades there have been pretty decent strides in regaining 2nd amendment rights. We have many states that have shall issue permits. Bans were overturned and continue to be attacked. We have also had some setbacks as a result of knee jerk stupidity, but overall the trend was pretty decent. Why not focus more energy on the tactics that have gained us points rather than continue to try something that is apparently causing harm? We need to highlight the faults in our opposition not offer them examples proving their point that Americans can't act responsibly. Think how the civil rights movement would have turned out had MLK shown up dressed in fatigues and presented an attitude that "proved" blacks weren't as civilized as whites? Instead his actions made the police and authorities look like the uncivilized lot. That is what we need to do.