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  • CokeCanLou

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    My buddy was just gifted his grandpas old rifle he needs help identifying it.. All we could figure out is that it’s in .308 is from England and was made in 1964 and is bolt action
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    Moonpie

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    Gunz are icky.
    On the boss of the action(area under the bolt knob) will be some identifying stamps. We need to see those for correct determination.
    A crap ton of those Enfield No.1’s were imported during the 1960’s to businesses in California. Not unusual to see them.
    I kinda doubt it’s a .308 as that round is too hot for the old Brit made No.1’s.
     

    Axxe55

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    NOT SAFE to shoot if it is MK3 .308. Only Enfields safe to shoot in .308 are from Ishapore.

    I have heard that many times over the years as well.

    OP, How did you determine this rifle is a 308?

    Reason is, are your sure? Could be a 303, and those do look very similar. Can you post any pictures of the markings that denote the chambering of the rifle if possible?
     

    G O B

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    Metallurgy of the Ishapore is better, made from USA chrome moly steel. UK made #3mk1* in NOT up to .308 pressures.
    .303 WWII rounds were loaded with cellulose nitrate- basically a sliver of movie film.
    .303 is a rimmed round, .308/7.62 is rimless.
     

    Berthier

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    That is backwards. It is safe to shoot 7.62x51 out of 308, but generally not the other way.
    Both calibers are virtually idtentical. To say that one has wildly higher pressure than the other, yet both having the same bullets, same powder and only a slight difference in internal case volume is foolish.
     

    satx78247

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    NOT SAFE to shoot if it is MK3 .308. Only Enfields safe to shoot in .308 are from Ishapore.
    NOT SAFE to shoot if it is MK3 .308. Only Enfields safe to shoot in .308 are from Ishapore.

    GOB; All,

    FWIW, in the early 1960s INDIA was short of rifles & a government depot near New Delhi "re-manufactured" some WWII-era SMLE rifles AND some P14 ENFIELDS that were chambered in .303 British caliber to 7.62NATO caliber.

    ImVho, those "re-manufactured" rifles are NOT "potentially hazardous" to fire with NATO service ammo.

    INSTEAD (and again in my OPINION), the re-chambered SMLE rifles ARE DANGEROUS to fire.
    (The rechambered P14 rifles MAY be OK but if I had one it would be CAREFULLY INSPECTED by a competent gunsmith before I would fire it. = Indian "quality control" in those days was only "fair to poor" at best..)

    yours, satx
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