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  • Ole Cowboy

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    I have been asked by some members in the Texas Senate to help draft legislation in defense of our 2nd Amendment Rights in Texas, especially ammunition. They to insure that legislation is passed to insure that backdoor gun control is not used to get around the 2nd A. Things like the use of lead in bullets, excessive taxes on guns and ammo etc.

    As I draft up my recommendations I would like to have your input, thoughts and views on how we accomplish protecting our rights. Some of you may know already that many states are proposing rules, regs and laws that effectively result in gun control without being gun control. No lead use in bullets, excessive taxes and local gun registration in city limits etc. My good friend and Texas Senator is a major 2nd A supporter and will lead the fight to protect us...

    Thank you and lets let this be a thread of good dialog, pros and cons and most of all sanity so we can achieve something...
     

    Vaquero

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    Admirable endeavor. I thank you and your friend. That being said, it is my beliefe that the repeal of existing laws that infringe on our rights should be the focus.
    Any new legislation will only strengthen the "box" we must operate in.
    Remove the box.
     

    Army 1911

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    Something along the lines of "In Texas, the right to keep and bear arms by its citizens shall not be infringed and this right includes but is not limited to all accouterments, accessories, and ammunition available past, present and future."
     

    Ole Cowboy

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    Admirable endeavor. I thank you and your friend. That being said, it is my beliefe that the repeal of existing laws that infringe on our rights should be the focus.
    Any new legislation will only strengthen the "box" we must operate in.
    Remove the box.
    While I concur with your thinking, what we are trying to prevent now is new laws being written that constrain our ability to keep our rights, such as excessive taxes on ammunition, the use of lead in our bullets. Of note is the fed have just shut down the last Lead smelter in the US, now we can mine lead but have to send it overseas for processing...
     

    Younggun

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    I would say a good set of preemption laws expanding on what we have to include ammunition and accessories. Might also consider adding knives to the preemption as many consider them just as protected by the 2A.

    As far as taxes, a law banning any new ones, at any level from city to state.
     

    FlashBang

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    Be it enacted that no rule nor law shall prohibit, limit, or constrain the sale, possession, manufacture or use of firearms ammunition in the Great State of Texas; nor shall any rule or law be enforced upon same, regardless if such rule or law shall be so written at any locality, county, federal or regulatory level.
     

    jordanmills

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    Be it enacted that no rule nor law shall prohibit, limit, or constrain the sale, possession, manufacture or use of firearms ammunition in the Great State of Texas; nor shall any rule or law be enforced upon same, regardless if such rule or law shall be so written at any locality, county, federal or regulatory level.

    Needs criminal penalty for attempts to enforce such laws.
     

    dustycorgill

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    Be it enacted that no rule nor law shall prohibit, limit, or constrain the sale, possession, manufacture or use of firearms ammunition in the Great State of Texas; nor shall any rule or law be enforced upon same, regardless if such rule or law shall be so written at any locality, county, federal or regulatory level.

    Sounds solid, but as JordanMills says, criminal penalties for attempting to violate the legislation.
     

    Mreed911

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    Of note is the fed have just shut down the last Lead smelter in the US, now we can mine lead but have to send it overseas for processing...

    Which had been shown repeatedly to have no impact on ammunition production in SEVERAL threads here and elsewhere and was not an attempt at back door gun control.

    Admirable purpose but as others have stated - misguided, IMO. How about getting them to repeal 46.035 and 30.05/30.06 in their entirety, instead?
     

    Ole Cowboy

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    Which had been shown repeatedly to have no impact on ammunition production in SEVERAL threads here and elsewhere and was not an attempt at back door gun control.

    Admirable purpose but as others have stated - misguided, IMO. How about getting them to repeal 46.035 and 30.05/30.06 in their entirety, instead?
    Really, then when was the last time there were no lead smelters operating in the US?

    While its not banned nationwide (YET) it is in Ca and its a growing movement acorss the US. If you ban lead then they will need to find a suitable substitute, this will impact cost and ballistics, maybe good, maybe bad, maybe not at all but this is to been seen and you have no empirical evidence at all to backup anything you said!

    Perhaps you missed the point of this thread, I am seeking input on addressing possible future efforts to establish gun control thru backdoor measures, just as they have done in Ca with the banning of lead. If you have something to contribute then please do, if not there is nothing to see here...
     
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