new gun ban list

Discussion in 'Gun Legislation' started by fedupdon, Mar 13, 2009.

  1. fedupdon

    fedupdon New Member

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    Obama's Gun Ban List Is Out
    Alan Korwin - Author Gun Laws Of America
    GunLaws.com
    3-12-9
    Here it is, folks, and it is bad news. The framework for legislation is always laid, and the Democrats have the votes to pass anything they want to impose upon us. They really do not believe you need anything more than a brick to defend your home and family. Look at the list and see how many you own. Remember, it is registration, then confiscation. It has happened in the UK, in Australia, in Europe, in China, and what they have found is that for some reason the criminals do not turn in their weapons, but will know that you did.

    Remember, the first step in establishing a dictatorship is to disarm the citizens.

    Gun-ban list proposed. Slipping below the radar (or under the short-term memory cap), the Democrats have already leaked a gun-ban list, even under the Bush administration when they knew full well it had no chance of passage (HR 1022, 110th Congress). It serves as a framework for the new list the Brady's plan to introduce shortly. I have an outline of the Brady's current plans and targets of opportunity. It's horrific. They're going after the courts, regulatory agencies, firearms dealers and statutes in an all out effort to restrict we the people. They've made little mention of criminals. Now more than ever, attention to the entire Bill of Rights is critical. Gun bans will impact our freedoms under search and seizure, due process, confiscated property, states' rights, free speech, right to assemble and more, in addition to the Second Amendment. The Democrats current gun-ban-list proposal (final list will be worse):

    Rifles (or copies or duplicates):
    M1 Carbine,
    Sturm Ruger Mini-14,
    AR-15,
    Bushmaster XM15,
    Armalite M15,
    AR-10,
    Thompson 1927,
    Thompson M1;
    AK,
    AKM,
    AKS,
    AK-47,
    AK-74,
    ARM,
    MAK90,
    NHM 90,
    NHM 91,
    SA 85,
    SA 93,
    VEPR;
    Olympic Arms PCR;
    AR70,
    Calico Liberty ,
    Dragunov SVD Sniper Rifle or Dragunov SVU,
    Fabrique National FN/FAL,
    FN/LAR, or FNC,
    Hi-Point20Carbine,
    HK-91,
    HK-93,
    HK-94,
    HK-PSG-1,
    Thompson 1927 Commando,
    Kel-Tec Sub Rifle;
    Saiga,
    SAR-8,
    SAR-4800,
    SKS with detachable magazine,
    SLG 95,
    SLR 95 or 96,
    Steyr AU,
    Tavor,
    Uzi,
    Galil and Uzi Sporter,
    Galil Sporter, or Galil Sniper Rifle ( Galatz ).
    Pistols (or copies or duplicates):
    Calico M-110,
    MAC-10,
    MAC-11, or MPA3,
    Olympic Arms OA,
    TEC-9,
    TEC-DC9,
    TEC-22 Scorpion, or AB-10,
    Uzi.
    Shotguns (or copies or duplicates):
    Armscor 30 BG,
    SPAS 12 or LAW 12,
    Striker 12,
    Streetsweeper. Catch-all category (for anything missed or new designs):
    A semiautomatic rifle that accepts a detachable magazine and has:
    (i) a folding or telescoping stock,
    (ii) a threaded barrel,
    (iii) a pistol grip (which includes ANYTHING that can serve as a grip, see
    below),
    (iv) a forward grip; or a barrel shroud.
    Any semiautomatic rifle with a fixed magazine that can accept more than
    10 rounds (except tubular magazine .22 rim fire rifles).
    A semiautomatic pistol that has the ability to accept a
    detachable magazine, and has:
    (i) a second pistol grip,
    (ii) a threaded barrel,
    (iii) a barrel shroud or
    (iv) can accept a detachable magazine outside of the pistol grip, and
    (v) a semiautomatic pistol with a fixed magazine that can accept more than 10
    rounds.
    A semiautomatic shotgun with:
    (i) a folding or telescoping stock,
    (ii) a pistol grip (see definition below),
    (iii) the ability to accept a detachable magazine or a fixed magazine capacity
    of more than 5 rounds, and
    (iv) a shotgun with a revolving cylinder.
    Frames or receivers for the above are included, along with conversion kits.
    Attorney General gets carte blanche to ban guns at will: Under the proposal, the U.S. Attorney General can add any "semiautomatic rifle or shotgun originally designed for military or law enforcement use, or a firearm based on the design of such a firearm, that is not particularly suitable for sporting purposes, as determined by the Attorney General."


    Note that Obama's pick for this office, Eric Holder, wrote a brief in the Heller case supporting the position that you have no right to have a working firearm in your own home. In making this determination, the bill says, "there shall be a rebuttable presumption that a firearm procured for use by the United States military or any law enforcement agency is not particularly suitable for sporting purposes, and a shall not be determined to be particularly suitable for sporting purposes solely because the firearm is suitable for use in a sporting event." In plain English this means that ANY firearm ever obtained by federal officers or the military is not suitable for the public.


    The last part is particularly clever, stating that a firearm doesn't have a sporting purpose just because it can be used for sporting purpose -- is that devious or what? And of course, "sporting purpose" is a rights infringement with no constitutional or historical support whatsoever, invented by domestic enemies of the right to keep and bear arms to further their cause of disarming the innocent.

    Respectfully submitted, Alan Korwin, Author Gun Laws of America Gun Laws of America

    Forward or send to every gun owner you know...
    Watch This, If You Want More Proof:
    YouTube - CNN- Obama To BAN Guns SPREAD THIS FOLKS, PLZ!
    YouTube - CNN- Obama To BAN Guns SPREAD THIS FOLKS, PLZ!

    A partial list of gun rights groups:

    Gun Owners of America
    Gun Owners of America

    Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership
    Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership - Homepage

    FREEDOM=GUNS
    FREEDOM=GUNS

    National Rifle Association
    National Rifle Association - NRA Website Gateway

    Second Amendment Committee
    Second Amendment Committee :: Welcome

    Second Amendment Foundation
    Second Amendment Foundation Online

    Second Amendment Sisters
    Second Amendment Sisters, Inc.

    Women Against Gun Control
    Women Against Gun Control is a free to join group that supports the 2nd Amendment and a woman's right to protect herself.
     


  2. onac255

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    God Help Us All...
     
  3. JKTex

    JKTex Well-Known

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    This is the same revised list in the proposed AWB bill. It's been out for quite some time.

    Above and beyond it being stupid, it's got some ridiculous things listed but pretty much limits anything semi-auto to 10 rd's again.

    What gets me is the telescoping stock thing. A semi-auto shotgun with a Knoxx stock is on the list but a pump is not. How the minute amount of speed there is between the too justifies it to be banned is beyond me.

    How about the "Street sweeper" bucket? What they hell can they dump in that bucket that could fit that moniker?
     
  4. country_boy

    country_boy TGT Addict

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    they arent getting anything of mine so they can just keep on moving along.
     
  5. awmp

    awmp New Member

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    WOW what a list
     
  6. JKTex

    JKTex Well-Known

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    :rofl: Does anyone remember when the last AWB went into effect, and how the black unmarked Suburbans and heli's swarmed in to go door to door to take guns away?

    While reinstating an AWB is stupid, it's not time to put tin foil hats on and hide in bunkers. Some people take this too far and loose sight of the goal to try to make it clear that it won't stop what the supporters think it will, just like it didn't the first time.

    Breath, relax and focus. :fighting0002:
     
  7. country_boy

    country_boy TGT Addict

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    Well said Jktex. People get too worked up over this.
     
  8. glockrocker

    glockrocker Member

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    What are you guys talking about, of course its something to get worked up about, and so was the first AWB. Just because they are being subtle about stripping away our rights to defend ourselves (namely from them), does NOT make it ok.
     
  9. mac79912

    mac79912 Well-Known

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    Not the black helicopters again<gasp> better get to the bunker or the top of Walmart to meet Elite team operator(Mega Force) .LOL.
    [​IMG]
     
  10. Furyataurus

    Furyataurus Active Member

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    They won't pass it. They like being in control and don't want to give it up like what happened in 94'. It's mainly "liberals" who want to do this crap. If they DO pass this they will get burned like they have never seen before.
     

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