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No to the UN!!!

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Soldiernurse, Oct 1, 2013.

  1. Soldiernurse

    Soldiernurse Active Member

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  2. PhulesAu

    PhulesAu TGT Addict

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    isn't this the same list as posted when this all came up before? names look really familiar.
     
  3. mosin

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    it looks familiar because someone just copied and pasted an email without verifying a damn thing. The senate did not hold a vote over the treaty this weekend.
     
  4. jordanmills

    jordanmills Well-Known

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    I thought they were pretty busy with other crap.
     
  5. Willy

    Willy Well-Known

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    They were golfing over the weekend instead of keeping the government open. Probably saved us money.
     
  6. AcidFlashGordon

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    I didn't hear anything about the senate considering ratification of the UN farce of a treaty. Those "traitors" listed are the ones who would support ratification but it hasn't come to a vote yet. I doubt, even if it did, it would even remotely come close to ratification.
     
  7. Soldiernurse

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    However, the measure voted upon was not the treaty itself, but a non-binding test amendment expressing opposition to the ATT which was tacked onto an unrelated congressional budget resolution. The record of the U.S. Senate Roll Call Vote confirms that all the senators who voted against the amendment were Democrats or independents.
    Read more at snopes.com: U.N. Arms Trade Treaty
     
  8. Soldiernurse

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    Here's another copy-n-paste, my friend...
    However, the measure voted upon was not the treaty itself, but a non-binding test amendment expressing opposition to the ATT which was tacked onto an unrelated congressional budget resolution. The record of the U.S. Senate Roll Call Vote confirms that all the senators who voted against the amendment were Democrats or independents.
    Read more at snopes.com: U.N. Arms Trade Treaty
     
  9. Ole Cowboy

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    John (never met a Purple Heart he did not want) Kerry our bumbling fumbling Sec of State just signed the UN Small Arms Treaty about 10 days ago or less. It is expected that Obama will also sign it. When he does then will be interesting, EO? Who knows. As for the Senate ratifying it, YES they can and in fact we are only about 6 seats away from it.
     
  10. benenglish

    benenglish Lifetime Supporter Staff Member Lifetime Member Admin

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    They can, but it's unlikely. Consider this:

    • Some serious domestic political pressure is being applied against it.
    • The actual language is so watered-down and ambiguous, it might not mean anything important to us even if it were ratified.
    • It's not a priority; things like this typically languish for years.
    • Several major players (Russia and China, for example) have already said they would NOT sign it, putting the U.S. at a potential commercial disadvantage in sales of heavy weapons if we do ratify it.
    • As a result, not too many senators are anxious for an opportunity to simultaneously piss off both the gun owners and the big, military arms dealers (who pour lots of money into their campaigns) back in their home districts.
    I consider the arms treaty to be something to be monitored but, compared to other threats to our rights, pretty much a low-level distraction.
     


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