Not a good time to be buying a truck

[Grumps21]

Not even an F150 with a 700lb lighter body, and a 5L Coyote engine?!

The get-up, and NAV/Pandora (in rentals for work) sold me!

The newer ones are burning oil. There’s a class action filed for 2018-2020 models of the 5.0 for excessive oil consumption. No idea if that will carry over to ‘21/’22 models. If I chose to get an oil burner, it would be a full on diesel, lol. I’ve got a truck with 5.0 coyote, but it’s an older one. Damn thing does get up and go..

 

[jmohme]

Not even an F150 with a 700lb lighter body, and a 5L Coyote engine?!

The get-up, and NAV/Pandora (in rentals for work) sold me!

Nope. I need 3/4 ton minimum.

 

[Sasquatch]

The newer ones are burning oil. There’s a class action filed for 2018-2020 models of the 5.0 for excessive oil consumption. No idea if that will carry over to ‘21/’22 models. If I chose to get an oil burner, it would be a full on diesel, lol. I’ve got a truck with 5.0 coyote, but it’s an older one. Damn thing does get up and go..

Good god, what does Ford consider excessive oil consumption? Every Ford I've driven with more than 40k on the odom uses a quart every oil change. I'm really curious to know how much they're burning.

 

[ZX9RCAM]

I'm sure glad I bought my year old Silverado in 2002.

 

[Grumps21]

Good god, what does Ford consider excessive oil consumption? Every Ford I've driven with more than 40k on the odom uses a quart every oil change. I'm really curious to know how much they're burning.

1 quart every 3k miles

 

[Grumps21]

I'm sure glad I bought my year old Silverado in 2002.

Those early 5.3 are the best in my eye. I’ve had four of them ranging between 2001 and 2005 over the years,

 

[GasGuzzler]

We are seeing very little issues with the 3.0L diesel or the 2.whatever 4-cylinder turbo. I would not buy either but we're not seeing many issues with them. The F***s might be burning oil but the GMs aren't that we see (not at least since the mid-2000 5.3L's that did).

Two years ago we had 180-200 vehicles on the lot, 70-ish per cent were new. We have a one ton, a 2500, three 1500's, four small SUVs and four mid-size SUVs ... no full size SUVs or cars. Good for service, right? Less new means more repairs on old? Not really. It's slower than it should be right now in this heat.

 

[Grumps21]

Less new means more repairs on old? Not really. It's slower than it should be right now in this heat.

Because less driving due to high fuel costs?

 

[Sasquatch]

1 quart every 3k miles

Heh, that's every Ford I've had or driven for work. My old service truck, an 07 F150 6 cylinder, used a quart every 3000. The 99 and 02 F250's we used to have were the same, they had the V8's. Shit, even my 98 Taurus I had for a while used a quart every 3K miles. I'm genuinely shocked Ford actually gives a shit about that now - maybe because they're advertising 5 or 7K oil changes, vs 3k now?

 

[Grumps21]

Heh, that's every Ford I've had or driven for work. My old service truck, an 07 F150 6 cylinder, used a quart every 3000. The 99 and 02 F250's we used to have were the same, they had the V8's. Shit, even my 98 Taurus I had for a while used a quart every 3K miles. I'm genuinely shocked Ford actually gives a shit about that now - maybe because they're advertising 5 or 7K oil changes, vs 3k now?

Mine is an 8qt sump. I change oil in all my cars 1k miles per qt, so truck gets it at 8k miles. The oil life indicator is generally ~15-18% at that time. People are getting in trouble because they run it down to near zero at which point they starve the engine of oil. Ferd has a software update to recalc the oil life monitor but then why have such a large capacity sump if you can’t take advantage of it?