NRA Criticizes Open Carry Advocates

[Brian Boru]

Ummm...all I see there is some officers wildly over-reacting to people who were technically trespassing a whole 10" or so (and no notice from the property owner) with the rifles on their backs nowhere near low ready like snowboots. Wtf property is that anywho, almost looks like a government building to me.


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I didn't see any threatening on the OCT guys part either.

 

[Enochwel]

I don't know... With all the efforts to take away our gun rights and the very serious restrictive bills being presented to congress before this guy ever showed up ar15 in Atlanta, maybe keeping the guns hidden is necessary to form the opinion that gun people are crazy. It's bound to cause reflection when you see your beloved music teacher, co-worker, best friends mom, family doctor at the store with their side arm and acting all normal shopping like everyone else...


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[kyletxria1911a1]

...He was lookin' for a soul to steal.
He was in a bind 'cause he was way behind. He was willing to make a deal
When he came across this young man rockin' an AR and makin' it hot
And the Devil jumped upon a hickory stump and said "Boy, let me tell you what."

"I guess you didn't know it, but I'm an operator too.
And if you'd care to take a dare I'll make a bet with you.
Now you're a pretty good marksman, boy, but give the Devil his due.
I'll bet a AK of gold against your soul 'cause I think I'm better than you."

The boy said, "My name's Johnny, and it might be a sin,
But I'll take your bet; and you're gonna regret 'cause I'm the best there's ever been."

Johnny, lock-n-load yer gun and run the killhouse hard.
'Cause Hell's broke loose in Georgia and the Devil deals it hard.
And if you win you get this shiny rifle made of gold,
But if you lose the devil gets your soul.

The Devil opened up his case and he said, "I'll start this show."
And fire flew from his fingertips as he held at ready-low.
And he pulled the charging handle fast and it made an evil squeal.
And a squad of demons joined in and they shredded the killhouse steel.

When the Devil finished, Johnny said, "Well, you're pretty good ol' son,
But sit down in that chair right there and let me show you how it's done."

"Fire in the hole." Six in the pipe!
The Devil's in the house of the stars and stripes;
ISIS in the townhall recruiting our dopes.
Grampa, you afraid to fight? No, child, nope.

The Devil bowed his head because he knew that he'd been beat.
And he laid that golden AK on the ground at Johnny's feet.
Johnny said, "Devil, just come on back if you ever wanna try again,
I done told you once—you son of a bitch—I'm the best that's ever been."
And he played:

"Fire in the hole." Six in the pipe!
The Devil's in the house of the stars and stripes;
ISIS in the townhall recruiting our dopes.
Grampa, you afraid to fight? No, child, nope.

you sir i like

 

[TexasCarryAssociation]

It's something of a two-headed dragon: the NRA's Legislative Division ( activist commandos all ) do great work at the concrete, federal level, but have, over time, become wedded to members annual payments while receiving the warm fuzzy from inside the beltway. When Open Carry legislation broke out in many states in the Midwest and South like a free electron the NRA took stock from purely an economic standpoint and realized ( incorrectly ) that it would lose inkind fees for classes, necessary for CHL. Constitutional Carry eliminates the middle man ( CHL Instructors, state licensing boards, NRA classes ) and returns the right-of-carry back to the citizen. I've spoken with many NRA legal types and the opinions seem to range from an instructors wariness, readily understood, to an acidic "absolutely not" as it upsets the continuum. Like many, I dropped my NRA membership two decades ago in favor of the more dedicated, bill-specific Texas-based 2A organizations who do great work lobbying legislators face to face, by phone, email or letter. The NRA has a dedicated federal function, but it's negative impact on Open Carry negates its usefulness at the state level.

 

[NeckBeard]

Wayne's been hustling me to renew my membership.

 

[TX69]

I have said before and will say again, the way to expand rights is by education and polite discourse without alarmist tactics. I am totally happy that OC and CC passed, but I would caution on the side of discretion. Open carry if you choose, but a group meeting in public places is not going to show the general public we are just like them. No shock and awe tactics come 1 Jan.

I concur. As for the NRA comments --- Meh, shrug it off.

 

[RoadRunner]

NRA still gets my yearly check.
Although they seem to ask for it every two weeks...

Every time that I get a letter or a phone call from the NRA I send a check to the Gun Owners of America.

Guess which national gun organization has either helped to write and/or helped to pass every major federal gun law.

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[benenglish]

I like the way you use the search function. Welcome to TGT.

 

[candcallen]

A, possibly, relevant anecdote.

I'm an AZ native. We didn't get ccw till about 92 or 94 and we have always had open carry. Everyone open carried all the time and no one pissed themselves.

After most started cc it only took 7 or 8 years till the BS MWAG calls started. People who open carried for decades started having cops all over stopping them. You have law abiding people who have carried decades openly getting messed with by libtards hand wringers and cops, on their own initiative or responding to a call, and that sheit can get out of control fast. It has done so with people getting killed in other places. Costco and LV come to mind.

Use your right or don't be shocked when you can't. That said you should pick your battles and your hill to die on. I would never tell someone they shouldn't open carry but I will call a piece of Obama when I see them.

 

[avvidclif]

To me open carry in a metromess is an "In your Face" statement that helps nothing. Besides the fact it's like painting a bullseye on yourself. If a guy is going to jump bad your first, before you even realize it. The flip side is when you get out of the metromess (looneyville) it makes more sense to have the law in place for the hunters/country folk who don't want to unarm just to go into town for a steak.

 

[Southpaw]

If a guy is going to jump bad your first, before you even realize it. .

I don't believe statistics from states with OC show that this is true. I am sure someone else can chime in with more evidence to that point, as we have discussed it here before.

 

[V-Tach]

 

[BRD@66]

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[Kar98]

 

[leVieux]

These are separate issues and should be kept that way.

1) OC and CC are not mutually exclusive.

2) The LEGALITY of OC should never be confused with its advisability.

3) We do not have the ability to rule over our fellow citizens.

4) Like it or not, the NRA is the very BEST we've got!

Good Night,
leVieux

 

[seeker_two]

These are separate issues and should be kept that way.

1) OC and CC are not mutually exclusive.

2) The LEGALITY of OC should never be confused with its advisability.

3) We do not have the ability to rule over our fellow citizens.

4) Like it or not, the NRA is the very BEST we've got!

Good Night,
leVieux

I agree with all this....including #4......


.....and that's what makes me nervous.

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[leVieux]

From our Bill of Rights, BOTH "Open Carry" and "Concealed Carry" for non-criminal citizens should be LEGAL without any "permit".

The advisability of Open Carry, under various conditions may be debatable, or inadvisable.

BUT, those discussions shouldn't be mixed in the same forum, as it just confuses the issues, and most onlookers.

leVieux



















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[robertc1024]

From our Bill of Rights, BOTH "Open Carry" and "Concealed Carry" for non-criminal citizens should be LEGAL without any "permit".

The advisability of Open Carry, under various conditions may be debatable, or inadvisable.

BUT, those discussions shouldn't be mixed in the same forum, as it just confuses the issues, and most onlookers.

leVieux
c

Well put.